Thank You, Kurt - Page 2

Trees of Wisdom · 04-06-2004, 01:34 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by shiver) As far as Nirvana goes, the only CD I have of them is the Unplugged. It's an awesome cd. I respect what Kurt did as a musician, lyrically and musically. No matter what anybody thinks Nirvana left an impression on the music world, and with a little help from some friends (Alice, Pearl Jam, et. al), they brought in a new era of music, and thankfully saved us from the hair bands. I say thank you, Kurt, for saving us from the hair, and for those that haven't listened to Unplugged, give it a try. But what do I know, I like St. Anger.

St. Anger sucked hard!

Higher_Desire · 04-06-2004, 01:51 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by shiver) As far as Nirvana goes, the only CD I have of them is the Unplugged. It's an awesome cd. I respect what Kurt did as a musician, lyrically and musically. No matter what anybody thinks Nirvana left an impression on the music world, and with a little help from some friends (Alice, Pearl Jam, et. al), they brought in a new era of music, and thankfully saved us from the hair bands. I say thank you, Kurt, for saving us from the hair, and for those that haven't listened to Unplugged, give it a try. But what do I know, I like St. Anger.

Very nicely said.

Quote: (Originally Posted by Trees of Wisdom) St. Anger sucked hard!

Well, you do know quite a bit about "sucking," don't you? lol.

H-D

Trees of Wisdom · 04-06-2004, 01:52 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Higher_Desire) Very nicely said.

Well, you do know quite a bit about "sucking," don't you? lol.

H-D

Musically that is!

facelessman · 04-06-2004, 02:34 AM

they had some good songs or what not, but they were over-rated

hayley · 04-06-2004, 02:40 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Lechium) hate me all you want, but Nirvana is WAY WAY overrated.

I only like a few of Nirvana's songs, but it doesn't matter what kind of band they were, anyway.

I saw this documentry months ago about Kurt, his friends, Courtney, and his daughter, etc, and before I watched this documentry about him, I had never really thought much about what happened to him, I just thought, "stupid druggie", but now, after watching this doc, it makes me think about Kurt differently, it brought me to tears and everything about it makes me feel sad. I don't know why, but it hits my soft spot after seeing this doco.

Thanks for posting that, some of that stuff on that website are really sad, especailly the Greenhouse Diagram, and his note.

RIP, Kurt Cobain.

Dogstar · 04-06-2004, 02:46 AM

Yeah, I hate it when people just think some of these people were only about drugs. They were human beings who had friends and family just like everybody else and they got caught up in something really awful. And it fricken killed them. There are millions in the same boat, but their experiences just aren't as public as those of Layne and Kurt's and other celebrities and artist. They were so much more about their art than the drugs. It's a shame that the media focus on the drugs under the guise of sales.

The Lithium · 04-06-2004, 05:13 AM

GO KURT GO!!!

The Lithium · 04-06-2004, 05:15 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Trees of Wisdom) St. Anger sucked hard!

What? That one rocked hard!!!! But my fave-'Tallica is still "...And Justice For All" and "Black Album"!!!

Wylde-Tremonti · 04-06-2004, 06:12 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Lechium) hate me all you want, but Nirvana is WAY WAY overrated.

Decent band and all, but for some reason everyone claims that they started the new sound aka 'grunge'. Come on. Their first album was a below average punkish record, highly influenced by DC area punk of late 80ies. 'Nevermind', their first good album, and supposed start of the new sound was released AFTER AIC and Pearl Jam released Facelift and Ten respectivly.
Nivana was a decent band, that scored a huge hit, was an MTV darling, so they got even more famous, and also had a 'martyr' figure.

All the lists of top 100 guitar playes of all time with Kurt in top 10 are bogous -- he was a decent guitar player, but that's where it stops. Same goes for him being called an awesome singer -- his voice had fit his songs, we all got so used to, but other three big grunge bands had MUCH more proficient singers. Lets just give credit where it's due.

Basically -- good songs, good band, but just because they were big and than their singer killed themselfs it doesnt make them larger than life band that can be put on the level of say Led Zeppelin.

flame away now...

I Definately have to agree w/ you lech... and dude... The Rolling Stone List... SUCKED.... Kurt really shouldn't have been on that list at all...IMO...

Trees of Wisdom · 04-06-2004, 08:56 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by TremontiWanaB) I Definately have to agree w/ you lech... and dude... The Rolling Stone List... SUCKED.... Kurt really shouldn't have been on that list at all...IMO...

Mark wasn't even in the list.

Higher_Desire · 04-07-2004, 01:28 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by extreme_LITHIUM) What? That one rocked hard!!!! But my fave-'Tallica is still "...And Justice For All" and "Black Album"!!!

Why exactly are you talking about Metallica in a thread about Kurt Cobain, which was NIRVANA?

H-D

hayley · 04-07-2004, 01:44 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dogstar) Yeah, I hate it when people just think some of these people were only about drugs.

That's what I sort of thought before I saw this doco. But I only thought that because that is what I heard, everywhere, TV, newspapers, magazines, internet, radio stations, do you know what I mean? Pretty much all I heard about Kurt was that he was a junkie and that was all he lived for, etc. It really sucked and I couldn't believe it after I saw this doco. (I'm sorry, I know I keep on going on about it, but it really did change my perspective).

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dogstar) There are millions in the same boat, but their experiences just aren't as public as those of Layne and Kurt's and other celebrities and artist.

Yeah, that's true. And it would have made it worse, obviously, being a star isn't all it's cracked up to be some of the times.

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dogstar) It's a shame that the media focus on the drugs under the guise of sales.

Totally, is is a shame, it's actually quite a disgrace, I think.

Dogstar · 04-07-2004, 03:54 AM

Yes, it is a disgrace, Hayley...That's probably why you thought what you did about Kurt because that's all the radio/TV/mags ever focused on. It's sad, really.

JenRN · 04-07-2004, 09:29 AM

I was never a Nirvanan fan, agree with Lech again......... geez what is up with that! LOL

Anyways......I am not a huge grunge fan, never was. I am more the old school rock kind of girl. I do think there is more to his death than suicide though.... and why is it that our society immortalizes those with such issues and problems, just curious?

The Lithium · 04-07-2004, 03:04 PM

[quote=Higher_Desire]Why exactly are you talking about Metallica in a thread about Kurt Cobain, which was NIRVANA?[quote]

'Cause of some reason Trees said that St.Anger sucked hard. And St.Anger is Metallica!

04-06-2004, 01:34 AM	#16
Trees of Wisdom USER INFO » Status: Wound Up Posts: 1,106 Joined: Mar 2004 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by shiver) As far as Nirvana goes, the only CD I have of them is the Unplugged. It's an awesome cd. I respect what Kurt did as a musician, lyrically and musically. No matter what anybody thinks Nirvana left an impression on the music world, and with a little help from some friends (Alice, Pearl Jam, et. al), they brought in a new era of music, and thankfully saved us from the hair bands. I say thank you, Kurt, for saving us from the hair, and for those that haven't listened to Unplugged, give it a try. But what do I know, I like St. Anger. St. Anger sucked hard! __________________ "It's all about the super jackpot." -Mark Tremonti

04-06-2004, 01:51 AM	#17
Higher_Desire USER INFO » Status: Found Peace Posts: 8,631 Joined: Apr 2003 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by shiver) As far as Nirvana goes, the only CD I have of them is the Unplugged. It's an awesome cd. I respect what Kurt did as a musician, lyrically and musically. No matter what anybody thinks Nirvana left an impression on the music world, and with a little help from some friends (Alice, Pearl Jam, et. al), they brought in a new era of music, and thankfully saved us from the hair bands. I say thank you, Kurt, for saving us from the hair, and for those that haven't listened to Unplugged, give it a try. But what do I know, I like St. Anger. Very nicely said. Quote: (Originally Posted by Trees of Wisdom) St. Anger sucked hard! Well, you do know quite a bit about "sucking," don't you? lol. H-D __________________ Today I'm gonna try a little harder Gonna make every minute last longer Gonna learn to forgive and forget 'Cause we don't have long Gonna make the most of it Today I'm gonna love my enemies Reach out to somebody who needs me Make a change, make the world a better place 'Cause tomorrow could be one day too late --lyrics from "One Day Too Late" by Skillet from their new album "Awake"

04-06-2004, 01:52 AM	#18
Trees of Wisdom USER INFO » Status: Wound Up Posts: 1,106 Joined: Mar 2004 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by Higher_Desire) Very nicely said. Well, you do know quite a bit about "sucking," don't you? lol. H-D Musically that is! __________________ "It's all about the super jackpot." -Mark Tremonti

04-06-2004, 02:46 AM	#21
Dogstar Forum Diplomat USER INFO » Status: Young Grown Old Posts: 21,345 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	Yeah, I hate it when people just think some of these people were only about drugs. They were human beings who had friends and family just like everybody else and they got caught up in something really awful. And it fricken killed them. There are millions in the same boat, but their experiences just aren't as public as those of Layne and Kurt's and other celebrities and artist. They were so much more about their art than the drugs. It's a shame that the media focus on the drugs under the guise of sales. __________________ Silly monkeys give them thumbs they make a club and beat their brother down. How they survive so misguided is a mystery.

04-06-2004, 06:12 PM	#24
Wylde-Tremonti USER INFO » Status: Said Eyes Posts: 4,357 Joined: Oct 2002 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by Lechium) hate me all you want, but Nirvana is WAY WAY overrated. Decent band and all, but for some reason everyone claims that they started the new sound aka 'grunge'. Come on. Their first album was a below average punkish record, highly influenced by DC area punk of late 80ies. 'Nevermind', their first good album, and supposed start of the new sound was released AFTER AIC and Pearl Jam released Facelift and Ten respectivly. Nivana was a decent band, that scored a huge hit, was an MTV darling, so they got even more famous, and also had a 'martyr' figure. All the lists of top 100 guitar playes of all time with Kurt in top 10 are bogous -- he was a decent guitar player, but that's where it stops. Same goes for him being called an awesome singer -- his voice had fit his songs, we all got so used to, but other three big grunge bands had MUCH more proficient singers. Lets just give credit where it's due. Basically -- good songs, good band, but just because they were big and than their singer killed themselfs it doesnt make them larger than life band that can be put on the level of say Led Zeppelin. flame away now... I Definately have to agree w/ you lech... and dude... The Rolling Stone List... SUCKED.... Kurt really shouldn't have been on that list at all...IMO... __________________ NOT OF THIS WORLD "See to it that no-one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the basic principles of this world rather than on Christ." Colossians 2:8 My Solo Project's Myspace: Tongues Of Fire Jesus + Guitars = Life

04-06-2004, 08:56 PM	#25
Trees of Wisdom USER INFO » Status: Wound Up Posts: 1,106 Joined: Mar 2004 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by TremontiWanaB) I Definately have to agree w/ you lech... and dude... The Rolling Stone List... SUCKED.... Kurt really shouldn't have been on that list at all...IMO... Mark wasn't even in the list. __________________ "It's all about the super jackpot." -Mark Tremonti

04-07-2004, 01:28 AM	#26
Higher_Desire USER INFO » Status: Found Peace Posts: 8,631 Joined: Apr 2003 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by extreme_LITHIUM) What? That one rocked hard!!!! But my fave-'Tallica is still "...And Justice For All" and "Black Album"!!! Why exactly are you talking about Metallica in a thread about Kurt Cobain, which was NIRVANA? H-D __________________ Today I'm gonna try a little harder Gonna make every minute last longer Gonna learn to forgive and forget 'Cause we don't have long Gonna make the most of it Today I'm gonna love my enemies Reach out to somebody who needs me Make a change, make the world a better place 'Cause tomorrow could be one day too late --lyrics from "One Day Too Late" by Skillet from their new album "Awake"

04-07-2004, 03:54 AM	#28
Dogstar Forum Diplomat USER INFO » Status: Young Grown Old Posts: 21,345 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	Yes, it is a disgrace, Hayley...That's probably why you thought what you did about Kurt because that's all the radio/TV/mags ever focused on. It's sad, really. __________________ Silly monkeys give them thumbs they make a club and beat their brother down. How they survive so misguided is a mystery.

04-07-2004, 09:29 AM	#29
JenRN USER INFO » Status: Tree of Wisdom Posts: 7,519 Joined: Oct 2002 Currently: Offline	I was never a Nirvanan fan, agree with Lech again......... geez what is up with that! LOL Anyways......I am not a huge grunge fan, never was. I am more the old school rock kind of girl. I do think there is more to his death than suicide though.... and why is it that our society immortalizes those with such issues and problems, just curious? __________________ "I don't want to know emptiness, take me down to the water wanna be baptized in your love far away from the lonliness, take my heart and wash away the fear let me be baptized in your love" ~Lenny Kravitz "Baptized"

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