I heard the album!!! - Page 18

Ana4Stapp · 11-14-2005, 03:11 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by uncertaindrumer) Titan, you really aren't. Claim it all you want to, but you aren't. lol

A Creed fan cant be an equal fan of AB and Stapp ? Why not? Im a fan of both.

titan9 · 11-14-2005, 03:36 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by uncertaindrumer) Titan, you really aren't. Claim it all you want to, but you aren't. lol

Are you trying to say I take sides? 'Cause I definitely try not to. I enjoy both AB and Stapp and Creed equally. I can listen to their music side by side by side and not find myself taking sides. There are songs I skip on ODR, songs I skip on TGD, and songs I skip on some of the Creed albums. I view all three as being equals, in terms of how much I like them.

facelessmike · 11-14-2005, 09:19 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by titan9) I can listen to their music side by side by side and not find myself taking sides. There are songs I skip on ODR, songs I skip on TGD, and songs I skip on some of the Creed albums. I view all three as being equals, in terms of how much I like them.

Ditto...and I thought it was just me!

uncertaindrumer · 11-14-2005, 10:13 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by titan9) Are you trying to say I take sides? 'Cause I definitely try not to. I enjoy both AB and Stapp and Creed equally. I can listen to their music side by side by side and not find myself taking sides. There are songs I skip on ODR, songs I skip on TGD, and songs I skip on some of the Creed albums. I view all three as being equals, in terms of how much I like them.

So you say... lol

uncertaindrumer · 11-14-2005, 10:15 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Ana4Stapp) A Creed fan cant be an equal fan of AB and Stapp ? Why not? Im a fan of both.

Oh, no, you can. I just think Titan *in general* lieks AB a bit mroe than Stapp. But that makes sense because AB has 3/4 of Creed while Stapp is like -1/4 of Creed... lol, jk

titan9 · 11-15-2005, 10:05 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by uncertaindrumer) Oh, no, you can. I just think Titan *in general* lieks AB a bit mroe than Stapp. But that makes sense because AB has 3/4 of Creed while Stapp is like -1/4 of Creed... lol, jk

Not true, lol. Now that I've listened to TGD and ODR enough, I'm ready to make the following statement: I enjoy both just the same. Both have highlights("Justify", "Hard Way", "Surround Me"/"Find The Real", "Burn It Down", "Metalingus") and so-so songs("Let Me Go", "Sublime"/"Watch Your Words", "Broken Wings"). I now view both albums in an equal way: very good debuts, but could have been even better with less ballads and more rock. Neither has the same magic for me as My Own Prison did, but both have potential.

I'm very interested in seeing how both Stapp and AB follow up their respective debut albums, although I doubt anything they'll ever release will match MOP's magic. It could happen, though, if Mark continues to write amazing solos, Myles continues to do his thing(and write more of the lyrics) and Stapp gets a bit better with his song-writing/singing. Still, I'm overall quite happy with what each has put out so far. And when either comes to my area for a show, I'll be happy to buy tickets and go.

Steve · 11-15-2005, 10:13 AM

I still prefer AB's debut over Stapp's just because I think I can listen to AB's all the way through and enjoy every song while everytime I stick Stapp's on I seem to be skipping a couple of songs (Let Me Go, Sublime, and Broken). But as titan said, neither really compare to My Own Prison.

titan9 · 11-15-2005, 11:39 AM

See, with ODR, I practically ALWAYS skip Broken Wings and Watch Your Words. I've listened to both a lot, and neither does anything for me. They just haven't grown on me like some songs(namely Burn It Down and Shed My Skin) have. If I'm on a road-trip, or have a bunch of free time, I'll listen to ODR all the way through, but if not, I'm going to skip at least a couple of songs.

Creed7352 · 11-15-2005, 11:52 AM

the next ab record will be much better and you'll change your mind titan...i'm sure of it. it's going to have "more rock" as you put it.

titan9 · 11-15-2005, 11:57 AM

Yeah, that's what I've heard. That has me really pumped up about the new album. It's not that I did not like the ballads on ODR; I did at first. But I think AB is capable of even better ballads, should they continue to put one or two on their next CD(s).

Again, it's not that I do not like ODR; I love the album. But I just think that AB can do even better next time around. Same with Stapp.

Dogstar · 11-15-2005, 12:11 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Creed7352) the next ab record will be much better and you'll change your mind titan...i'm sure of it. it's going to have "more rock" as you put it.

I sure hope so!

uncertaindrumer · 11-15-2005, 12:26 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by titan9) See, with ODR, I practically ALWAYS skip Broken Wings and Watch Your Words. I've listened to both a lot, and neither does anything for me. They just haven't grown on me like some songs(namely Burn It Down and Shed My Skin) have. If I'm on a road-trip, or have a bunch of free time, I'll listen to ODR all the way through, but if not, I'm going to skip at least a couple of songs.

I'm a bit confused... You want less ballads yet you skip WYW? Ummm... okay.

lol

titan9 · 11-15-2005, 12:34 PM

I don't care for WYW from a lyrical standpoint, lol. It just isn't that appealing of a song for me. I think if the lyrics were better, I'd probably like it a whole lot more.

But, yes, I do want less ballads, both from Stapp and AB. I just think that they both write much better hard songs than they do ballads.

uncertaindrumer · 11-15-2005, 08:08 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by titan9) I don't care for WYW from a lyrical standpoint, lol. It just isn't that appealing of a song for me. I think if the lyrics were better, I'd probably like it a whole lot more.

But, yes, I do want less ballads, both from Stapp and AB. I just think that they both write much better hard songs than they do ballads.

I agree with Tremo. Metal is his thing... But Stapp can't write a heavy lyrical song to save his life. He tried, I suppose, in fight song, which was literally he dumbest thing I have ever heard. "This is my fight song". If it weren't so pathetic it would be funny.

titan9 · 11-15-2005, 08:13 PM

All of this being your opinion, of course.

Which means that I obviously disagree. The four best tracks on the CD, imo, are the top four which happen to be "hard" songs. Granted, lyrically, outside of "Justify", none of those songs are amazing, so you do have point. But they're hardly pathetic.

11-14-2005, 03:36 PM	#257
titan9 USER INFO » Status: Bound and Tied Posts: 2,134 Joined: Dec 2004 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by uncertaindrumer) Titan, you really aren't. Claim it all you want to, but you aren't. lol Are you trying to say I take sides? 'Cause I definitely try not to. I enjoy both AB and Stapp and Creed equally. I can listen to their music side by side by side and not find myself taking sides. There are songs I skip on ODR, songs I skip on TGD, and songs I skip on some of the Creed albums. I view all three as being equals, in terms of how much I like them. __________________ Visit the 12 Stones Fan Community, 12stonesfans.com! Check out my friend's Music blog by here!

11-14-2005, 10:13 PM	#259
uncertaindrumer USER INFO » Status: Wound Up Posts: 1,255 Joined: Dec 2004 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by titan9) Are you trying to say I take sides? 'Cause I definitely try not to. I enjoy both AB and Stapp and Creed equally. I can listen to their music side by side by side and not find myself taking sides. There are songs I skip on ODR, songs I skip on TGD, and songs I skip on some of the Creed albums. I view all three as being equals, in terms of how much I like them. So you say... lol __________________ Titans baby, Titans.

11-14-2005, 10:15 PM	#260
uncertaindrumer USER INFO » Status: Wound Up Posts: 1,255 Joined: Dec 2004 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by Ana4Stapp) A Creed fan cant be an equal fan of AB and Stapp ? Why not? Im a fan of both. Oh, no, you can. I just think Titan in general lieks AB a bit mroe than Stapp. But that makes sense because AB has 3/4 of Creed while Stapp is like -1/4 of Creed... lol, jk __________________ Titans baby, Titans.

11-15-2005, 10:05 AM	#261
titan9 USER INFO » Status: Bound and Tied Posts: 2,134 Joined: Dec 2004 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by uncertaindrumer) Oh, no, you can. I just think Titan in general lieks AB a bit mroe than Stapp. But that makes sense because AB has 3/4 of Creed while Stapp is like -1/4 of Creed... lol, jk Not true, lol. Now that I've listened to TGD and ODR enough, I'm ready to make the following statement: I enjoy both just the same. Both have highlights("Justify", "Hard Way", "Surround Me"/"Find The Real", "Burn It Down", "Metalingus") and so-so songs("Let Me Go", "Sublime"/"Watch Your Words", "Broken Wings"). I now view both albums in an equal way: very good debuts, but could have been even better with less ballads and more rock. Neither has the same magic for me as My Own Prison did, but both have potential. I'm very interested in seeing how both Stapp and AB follow up their respective debut albums, although I doubt anything they'll ever release will match MOP's magic. It could happen, though, if Mark continues to write amazing solos, Myles continues to do his thing(and write more of the lyrics) and Stapp gets a bit better with his song-writing/singing. Still, I'm overall quite happy with what each has put out so far. And when either comes to my area for a show, I'll be happy to buy tickets and go. __________________ Visit the 12 Stones Fan Community, 12stonesfans.com! Check out my friend's Music blog by here!

11-15-2005, 11:39 AM	#263
titan9 USER INFO » Status: Bound and Tied Posts: 2,134 Joined: Dec 2004 Currently: Offline	See, with ODR, I practically ALWAYS skip Broken Wings and Watch Your Words. I've listened to both a lot, and neither does anything for me. They just haven't grown on me like some songs(namely Burn It Down and Shed My Skin) have. If I'm on a road-trip, or have a bunch of free time, I'll listen to ODR all the way through, but if not, I'm going to skip at least a couple of songs. __________________ Visit the 12 Stones Fan Community, 12stonesfans.com! Check out my friend's Music blog by here!

11-15-2005, 11:52 AM	#264
Creed7352 USER INFO » Status: Faceless Fan Posts: 512 Joined: May 2004 Currently: Offline	the next ab record will be much better and you'll change your mind titan...i'm sure of it. it's going to have "more rock" as you put it.

11-15-2005, 11:57 AM	#265
titan9 USER INFO » Status: Bound and Tied Posts: 2,134 Joined: Dec 2004 Currently: Offline	Yeah, that's what I've heard. That has me really pumped up about the new album. It's not that I did not like the ballads on ODR; I did at first. But I think AB is capable of even better ballads, should they continue to put one or two on their next CD(s). Again, it's not that I do not like ODR; I love the album. But I just think that AB can do even better next time around. Same with Stapp. __________________ Visit the 12 Stones Fan Community, 12stonesfans.com! Check out my friend's Music blog by here!

11-15-2005, 12:11 PM	#266
Dogstar Forum Diplomat USER INFO » Status: Young Grown Old Posts: 21,345 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by Creed7352) the next ab record will be much better and you'll change your mind titan...i'm sure of it. it's going to have "more rock" as you put it. I sure hope so! __________________ Silly monkeys give them thumbs they make a club and beat their brother down. How they survive so misguided is a mystery.

11-15-2005, 12:26 PM	#267
uncertaindrumer USER INFO » Status: Wound Up Posts: 1,255 Joined: Dec 2004 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by titan9) See, with ODR, I practically ALWAYS skip Broken Wings and Watch Your Words. I've listened to both a lot, and neither does anything for me. They just haven't grown on me like some songs(namely Burn It Down and Shed My Skin) have. If I'm on a road-trip, or have a bunch of free time, I'll listen to ODR all the way through, but if not, I'm going to skip at least a couple of songs. I'm a bit confused... You want less ballads yet you skip WYW? Ummm... okay. lol __________________ Titans baby, Titans.

11-15-2005, 12:34 PM	#268
titan9 USER INFO » Status: Bound and Tied Posts: 2,134 Joined: Dec 2004 Currently: Offline	I don't care for WYW from a lyrical standpoint, lol. It just isn't that appealing of a song for me. I think if the lyrics were better, I'd probably like it a whole lot more. But, yes, I do want less ballads, both from Stapp and AB. I just think that they both write much better hard songs than they do ballads. __________________ Visit the 12 Stones Fan Community, 12stonesfans.com! Check out my friend's Music blog by here!

11-15-2005, 08:08 PM	#269
uncertaindrumer USER INFO » Status: Wound Up Posts: 1,255 Joined: Dec 2004 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by titan9) I don't care for WYW from a lyrical standpoint, lol. It just isn't that appealing of a song for me. I think if the lyrics were better, I'd probably like it a whole lot more. But, yes, I do want less ballads, both from Stapp and AB. I just think that they both write much better hard songs than they do ballads. I agree with Tremo. Metal is his thing... But Stapp can't write a heavy lyrical song to save his life. He tried, I suppose, in fight song, which was literally he dumbest thing I have ever heard. "This is my fight song". If it weren't so pathetic it would be funny. __________________ Titans baby, Titans.

11-15-2005, 08:13 PM	#270
titan9 USER INFO » Status: Bound and Tied Posts: 2,134 Joined: Dec 2004 Currently: Offline	All of this being your opinion, of course. Which means that I obviously disagree. The four best tracks on the CD, imo, are the top four which happen to be "hard" songs. Granted, lyrically, outside of "Justify", none of those songs are amazing, so you do have point. But they're hardly pathetic. __________________ Visit the 12 Stones Fan Community, 12stonesfans.com! Check out my friend's Music blog by here!

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