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Old 12-02-2005, 03:13 PM   #91
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I don't believe Stapp at this point, and I don't believe 311 either. Really, I don't believe ANYONE except the director of security. I'm waiting to hear more before I really form more of an opinion on this whole thing. I'm also waiting to see that SpikeTV thing. It was taped right after he was on Live(he's wearing the same shirt in the promo pic on the site) so that wouldn't give him a large window of opportunity to get drunk. He didn't appear to be drunk at Live, and if he was, he did an excellent job of hiding it.

Even if it all comes out that Stapp was a jerk who caused the fight, who showed up to a taping drunk and acted sexist, it won't change the fact that I am a fan of his music. I don't worship him as a human being; I just enjoy his music.
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Old 12-02-2005, 03:22 PM   #92
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if he was/is intoxicated he probably does drugs rather than drinking specially when you have the money, its much more convenient and safer too use in public (and the high is better too). and I doubt if hes an alchoholic where he has to drink all the time.

Im not drawing any conclusions here but according to his acts and that fact that he sees himself on top of the world, cocain has these kinds of effects.
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Old 12-02-2005, 03:28 PM   #93
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It's entirely possible, but who knows for sure. 311 was quoted as saying that his girlfriend mentioned something about him being on illegal drugs. Whether or not she really said that, it remains to be seen and we may never know what she said exactly. I'd prefer not to speculate on that, right now.

About the second part of your post: I've never really studied the effects of cocaine use, nor have I ever done drugs, so I have no idea if cocaine really does that. Again, I'm not going to speculate on whether he does that drug or not. It's pointless right now to even discuss that, imo,.

However, if he does have substance abuse problems, he needs to get help and go to rehab immediately. Otherwise, he could flush his career and maybe even his life down the drain.
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Old 12-02-2005, 03:34 PM   #94
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Quote: (Originally Posted by titan9) It's entirely possible, but who knows for sure. 311 was quoted as saying that his girlfriend mentioned something about him being on illegal drugs. Whether or not she really said that, it remains to be seen and we may never know what she said exactly. I'd prefer not to speculate on that, right now.

About the second part of your post: I've never really studied the effects of cocaine use, nor have I ever done drugs, so I have no idea if cocaine really does that. Again, I'm not going to speculate on whether he does that drug or not. It's pointless right now to even discuss that, imo,.

However, if he does have substance abuse problems, he needs to get help and go to rehab immediately. Otherwise, he could flush his career and maybe even his life down the drain.

Yes and in the interview the 311 guy mentioned a few times that he was out of his mind.

yes thats what cocaine does to you, besides the energy it boosts your confidence to the highest where you think you can overcome everything easily and other effects in that relation.

What do you mean he could? he allready has if you compare his career/life with a few years ago.
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Old 12-02-2005, 03:36 PM   #95
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His reputation has definitely taken a hit, but he is still famous and still has a record deal. He hasn't flushed his career completely down the drain yet...but if he keeps doing negative stuff, he will do just that.
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Old 12-02-2005, 03:46 PM   #96
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Old 12-02-2005, 03:59 PM   #97
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hello, I am a 311 fan and often post on the 311 board. I just want to post a link that has a clip of SA Martinez being interviewed about the brawl by Stryker on KROQ.

SA Martinez on KROQ
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Old 12-02-2005, 04:30 PM   #98
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Quote: (Originally Posted by LiquidDonut) hello, I am a 311 fan and often post on the 311 board. I just want to post a link that has a clip of SA Martinez being interviewed about the brawl by Stryker on KROQ.

SA Martinez on KROQ
Amazing. Simply amazing.

Thank you for posting that.
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Old 12-02-2005, 06:07 PM   #99
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What's up everybody? As you can tell by my name I'm a 311 fan, and a pretty diehard one at that. I've read the disclaimer and stuff so don't try to delete my posts because I come in peace, just like 311 does. At first I just came here bc there was a link on another 311 message board and I wanted to check out your viewpoints on this. I was not planning on posting but after reading I just want to put my 2 cents in.

First off, about 311 in general. 311 are some of the nicest guys in the entire world. They preach positivity in their music and really follow it up in real life. To the person who is from Omaha and claims that 311 has egos, to say it simply, you're wrong. They have a great underground fan base that they truly care about. They tour nonstop at the request of their BB members and after any show they'll come out and chat with you even if its 15 degrees. Nick has a slight chip on the shoulder, but he's a rock star. Still, I've talked with him after numerous shows and had genuine convos with him, esp. about the song they played for me because I requested it on the BB. Nice guys huh?? Secondly, to say that they did this as a publicity stunt is ridiculous. 311 could give a damn about media attention. They've been together for 15 years and not once have pushed the issue of becoming main stream. Sure, Down and other songs became popular, but they have always talked about how they don't want to become MTV. So I'm sure they wouldn't do something like this just for media attention.

I was going to put in my opinion about the whole incident but I'm tired of typing and you're probably tired of reading. Just wanted to let you know that 311 are some great guys, would not start something for no reason, and are most likely telling the truth. When Scott Stapp mans up and tells his side like 311 has, then we may have the whole picture and be able to figure it out. Until then....

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Old 12-02-2005, 06:34 PM   #100
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Thank you for being respectful, lone311fan, because we try to run a nice board here. I confess, I'm not a big fan of their music, and I really haven't heard that much, but they don't seem like the kind of band that causes a lot of trouble. It's just a shame it had to happen in the first place.
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Old 12-02-2005, 09:43 PM   #101
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[quote=titan9]I'm also waiting to see that SpikeTV thing. It was taped right after he was on Live(he's wearing the same shirt in the promo pic on the site)/QUOTE]

Titan, did you read that somewhere?
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Old 12-02-2005, 09:47 PM   #102
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Quote: (Originally Posted by sina2b) if he was/is intoxicated he probably does drugs rather than drinking specially when you have the money, its much more convenient and safer too use in public (and the high is better too). and I doubt if hes an alchoholic where he has to drink all the time.

Im not drawing any conclusions here but according to his acts and that fact that he sees himself on top of the world, cocain has these kinds of effects.

Wow, one quick mention that it's possible he wasn't intoxicated on the Casino Cinema show, because of a slim chance of a narrow window margin, and he's now snorting coke. Geezus H. Christ.

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Old 12-02-2005, 10:13 PM   #103
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Quote: (Originally Posted by titan9) I'm also waiting to see that SpikeTV thing. It was taped right after he was on Live(he's wearing the same shirt in the promo pic on the site)/QUOTE]

Titan, did you read that somewhere?

Yup, read it at PBF(I'm a non-posting member there). I examined the pic myself and it's the exact same light blue long sleeve shirt.
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Wouldnt he be fun to go out with, well it doe appear he acts like a jerk but just because his famous doesnt mean he has to behave how society expects him to behave, his human aswell let him get druink let him have a fight his a rokstar and he can do wateva he likes.. thats why he wrote the lyrics to BULLETS bcoz his sick of everyone.
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Old 12-02-2005, 11:18 PM   #105
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Quote: (Originally Posted by geletmote) Wouldnt he be fun to go out with, well it doe appear he acts like a jerk but just because his famous doesnt mean he has to behave how society expects him to behave, his human aswell let him get druink let him have a fight his a rokstar and he can do wateva he likes.. thats why he wrote the lyrics to BULLETS bcoz his sick of everyone.

it doesnt matter if hes a rockstar, president or anyone in this planet, if thats the way he thinks he deserves to get his ass kicked which did happen. you seem to think that way too? lol
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