Abortion - Page 5

Lady Valkyrie · 09-30-2002, 09:44 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Dogstar
What bothers me about some people, and I emphasize some, who oppose abortion is that they never seem to want to consider the ramifications of unwanted pregnancy  on the mother, the family, the child or society.

What ramification justifies killing that innocent child?

luvscott4ever · 09-30-2002, 11:07 PM

Quote: Originally posted by TeriB19
I am pro-choice, and I am outta here. Pretty soon I may just leave this entire Religous forum. Debate, in and of itself, is enjoyable.... to a point. I've reached that point, I've realized this is not a subject I want to go back and forth on because no one's mind will be changed here. Thanks and peace.

Righ back at ya, babe...You are sooo right!!! This is way too hot a topic, my daughter couldn't believe there is such a board on this, a CREED chat, do we have to get into such heated topics??
I thought this was suppost to be FUN, this post isn't any fun!!!

TeriB19 · 09-30-2002, 11:11 PM

What do you say you and me go to another thread and get some wine?

luvscott4ever · 09-30-2002, 11:31 PM

Quote: Originally posted by TeriB19
What do you say you and me go to another thread and get some wine?

works for me, you can drink the wine (not much for wine) and I'll have me a Diablo!!!! And drink to happy times and more cheerful chats!!! :P

Lady Valkyrie · 09-30-2002, 11:42 PM

Excuse me but if you don't want to read or participate in a serious thread then don't walk into ones that have blatantly obvious thread titles such as "ABORTION" that give the impression of seriousness. Duh! The title itself is explaination enough!!! Geez! Are you guys not used to actually having real serious discussions in a forum titled FAITH/RELIGION? What did you guys used to talk about in a FAITH/RELIGION forum? Maybe there were threads like uh lets say like "Scott's so HEAVENLY!" ARRRRRRRRRRRGH!

Dogstar · 10-01-2002, 12:30 AM

<-----is banging her head against the wall....
FYI, I'll speak for myself here, I'm used to serious, insightful debates with people who actually want to debate and not proselytize. There are many more sides to an issue than two.

luvscott4ever · 10-01-2002, 12:41 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Lady Valkyrie
<b>Excuse me but if you don't want to read or participate in a serious thread then don't walk into ones that have blatantly obvious thread titles  such as "ABORTION" that give the impression of seriousness. Duh! The title itself is explaination enough!!! Geez! Are you guys not used to actually having real serious discussions in a forum titled FAITH/RELIGION? What did you guys used to talk about in a FAITH/RELIGION forum? Maybe there were threads like uh lets say like "Scott's so HEAVENLY!" ARRRRRRRRRRRGH! </b>

but, DUH!!! he is heavenly!!! or can't people see that by just looking at him!!!

It would be fine to discuss, but some people only want to hear and see their side of the issue!!! It's all politics, and IMHFO, politics SUCK!!!!!!

Dogstar · 10-01-2002, 12:43 AM

LMFAO!!

souldancer · 10-01-2002, 04:36 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Lady Valkyrie
<b> Are you guys not used to actually having real serious discussions in a forum titled FAITH/RELIGION?  Maybe there were threads like uh lets say like "Scott's so HEAVENLY!" ARRRRRRRRRRRGH! </b>

There is a difference between a discussion/debate and, as dogstar pointed out, proselytizing. Debates are fine for subjects based on facts where evidence and examples can be supplied to support statements, but with a topic of "beliefs" - there is no doubt to be varying, subjective comments and opinions of people's truths. How can you doubt another person's belief? You may disagree with it, you may ask how it was developed or what is the foundation for it, but in no freakin way can you deny it is the individual's belief! And, I certainly wouldn't expect a practicing Christian to invalidate or judge another's belief (LOL).

A belief - A creed. Hail to the heavenly group that unites us in heart and mind. Rock on Heavenly Creed!

The earth is a voice speaking to you.
Take all this pride and leave it behind
Because one day we die.
Believe what you will That is your right....

TeriB19 · 10-01-2002, 06:15 AM

Here Here Souldancer, All Hail CREED!! Isn't that why we are here anyway?

And, yes, we DID have serious discussions on the Religion forum, not just "oh, Scott is God". It's just that most of us here respected each others' opinions without needing to challenge those opinions from the pulpit. Opinions ARE like assholes (as I believe either Allison or Aimee pointed out {sorry, too early, can't remember who}) everyone has one. Everyone has one, and you can't deny that everyone has one, you just have to respect the fact that everyone has one and move on. Most people don't talk/ preach out of theirs, but I guess there are exceptions.

Dogstar · 10-01-2002, 12:32 PM

Well said, Souldancer and TeriB (as usual

)

luvscott4ever · 10-01-2002, 05:48 PM

This is why I love you guys!!! (Dogstar, Teri and Souldancer) You don't judge, you listen!!! And by all means: Hail Creed!!!

Dogstar · 10-01-2002, 05:55 PM

Amen to that...Hail Creed!

TeriB19 · 10-01-2002, 06:00 PM

All Hail Creed...from a different forum. I'm finished here. C'mon guys, I'm buying.

Dogstar · 10-01-2002, 06:19 PM

I'm there, TeriB. Gotta stay outta here...Gets me into trouble.

09-30-2002, 11:11 PM	#63
TeriB19 Forum Diplomat USER INFO » Status: Saving Grace Posts: 12,439 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	What do you say you and me go to another thread and get some wine? __________________ MK: We're never gonna have the Super Bowl of Scott Stapp vs. Myles Kennedy in a sing-off - it's ridiculous. SP: Actually, we are setting that up. MT: It was in your contract when you signed up with us.

10-01-2002, 12:30 AM	#66
Dogstar Forum Diplomat USER INFO » Status: Young Grown Old Posts: 21,345 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	<-----is banging her head against the wall.... FYI, I'll speak for myself here, I'm used to serious, insightful debates with people who actually want to debate and not proselytize. There are many more sides to an issue than two. __________________ Silly monkeys give them thumbs they make a club and beat their brother down. How they survive so misguided is a mystery.

10-01-2002, 12:43 AM	#68
Dogstar Forum Diplomat USER INFO » Status: Young Grown Old Posts: 21,345 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	LMFAO!! __________________ Silly monkeys give them thumbs they make a club and beat their brother down. How they survive so misguided is a mystery.

10-01-2002, 04:36 AM	#69
souldancer USER INFO » Status: Seeker Posts: 1,802 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Lady Valkyrie <b> Are you guys not used to actually having real serious discussions in a forum titled FAITH/RELIGION?  Maybe there were threads like uh lets say like "Scott's so HEAVENLY!" ARRRRRRRRRRRGH! </b> There is a difference between a discussion/debate and, as dogstar pointed out, proselytizing. Debates are fine for subjects based on facts where evidence and examples can be supplied to support statements, but with a topic of "beliefs" - there is no doubt to be varying, subjective comments and opinions of people's truths. How can you doubt another person's belief? You may disagree with it, you may ask how it was developed or what is the foundation for it, but in no freakin way can you deny it is the individual's belief! And, I certainly wouldn't expect a practicing Christian to invalidate or judge another's belief (LOL). A belief - A creed. Hail to the heavenly group that unites us in heart and mind. Rock on Heavenly Creed! The earth is a voice speaking to you. Take all this pride and leave it behind Because one day we die. Believe what you will That is your right.... __________________ ..our youth will never die!

10-01-2002, 06:15 AM	#70
TeriB19 Forum Diplomat USER INFO » Status: Saving Grace Posts: 12,439 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	Here Here Souldancer, All Hail CREED!! Isn't that why we are here anyway? And, yes, we DID have serious discussions on the Religion forum, not just "oh, Scott is God". It's just that most of us here respected each others' opinions without needing to challenge those opinions from the pulpit. Opinions ARE like assholes (as I believe either Allison or Aimee pointed out {sorry, too early, can't remember who}) everyone has one. Everyone has one, and you can't deny that everyone has one, you just have to respect the fact that everyone has one and move on. Most people don't talk/ preach out of theirs, but I guess there are exceptions. __________________ MK: We're never gonna have the Super Bowl of Scott Stapp vs. Myles Kennedy in a sing-off - it's ridiculous. SP: Actually, we are setting that up. MT: It was in your contract when you signed up with us.

10-01-2002, 12:32 PM	#71
Dogstar Forum Diplomat USER INFO » Status: Young Grown Old Posts: 21,345 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	Well said, Souldancer and TeriB (as usual ) __________________ Silly monkeys give them thumbs they make a club and beat their brother down. How they survive so misguided is a mystery.

10-01-2002, 05:55 PM	#73
Dogstar Forum Diplomat USER INFO » Status: Young Grown Old Posts: 21,345 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	Amen to that...Hail Creed! __________________ Silly monkeys give them thumbs they make a club and beat their brother down. How they survive so misguided is a mystery.

10-01-2002, 06:00 PM	#74
TeriB19 Forum Diplomat USER INFO » Status: Saving Grace Posts: 12,439 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	All Hail Creed...from a different forum. I'm finished here. C'mon guys, I'm buying. __________________ MK: We're never gonna have the Super Bowl of Scott Stapp vs. Myles Kennedy in a sing-off - it's ridiculous. SP: Actually, we are setting that up. MT: It was in your contract when you signed up with us.

10-01-2002, 06:19 PM	#75
Dogstar Forum Diplomat USER INFO » Status: Young Grown Old Posts: 21,345 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	I'm there, TeriB. Gotta stay outta here...Gets me into trouble. __________________ Silly monkeys give them thumbs they make a club and beat their brother down. How they survive so misguided is a mystery.

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