can someone help me out?(creed related) - Page 2

WeatheredWoman · 12-26-2003, 09:03 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dogstar) I love Ed's vibrato and the emotion he brings to the music. Both of them are wonderful, though I think Ed has a bit more range.

Ok that's your personal flavour! Everyone has his own... luckily!! Otherwise it would be a very boring world... wouldn't it?

Dogstar · 12-26-2003, 09:07 PM

Well, mamm1234, I WAS on the rail, on Mark's side, and most people, save a few, were taking the whole thing in stride, at least the people near me. One woman was upset that he was swearing because she had her son with her who was about 12, and yeah, a few people were like, WTF? I know what issues you are talking about, so why don't you lose your own arrogant tone, thank you. Sheesh...And wasn't the intro video to Whose Got My Back? I thought the video was for that one, not Hide, but I could be wrong. And the announcer came on to say there was a power outage.

Dogstar · 12-26-2003, 09:08 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by WeatheredWoman) Ok that's your personal flavour! Everyone has his own... luckily!! Otherwise it would be a very boring world... wouldn't it?

LOL, very true, WeatheredWoman.

WeatheredWoman · 12-26-2003, 09:12 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dogstar) LOL, very true, WeatheredWoman.

Allrighty then !

mamm1234 · 12-26-2003, 09:23 PM

You're right dogstar, I'm sorry if I'm coming on too strong but that show still hits a sore spot with me.I rarely talk about it because I just don't like talking crap about Creed because I love them too much.

One of the other reasons I say all of Creed (including or maybe mostly management)is too blame for a lot of what happened last fall was because they were still adding shows after the cancellations because of Scott's voice.

So when I saw they added State College, I was a little apprehensive but trusted Creed that everything was OK. Why else would they be adding shows. For me State college meant taking off from work, and the expenses of staying overnight. So it was a very expensive show for me. And don't forget how the night started out. it was freezing and raining and the first hint something was wrong was when they delayed opening the doors to let us in. (Those of us with GA tickets and who were outside turning to ice cubes)

But you know what, even after that, I went to Philly (another show that was added and also had to spend the night because I love these guys so much.

Dogstar · 12-26-2003, 09:50 PM

Apology accepted, mamm1234

. I, too, stayed overnight and spent quite a bit and froze my a** off waiting outside, LOL. I don't know, having been to so many concerts over the years, I have seen far worse than what happened at Penn State, so I guess it didn't faze me much. Plus, they at least finished what they could of the show. I can understand your frustration. But, hey, at least it wasn't as bad as Chicago. Hey, and Philly more than made up for Penn State, though

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I agree that management did Creed a disservice by adding so many shows. I think that was the second or third show in PA on the Weathered tour, so maybe people had had their fill. Dunno, but I wouldn't expect a band to actually keep people informed of delays and such because they are usually trying to prepare for the show. I would think the promoters or management or someone at the venue would have that responsibility, but who knows?

hide · 12-27-2003, 05:28 AM

can't anyone help me? surely some of you guys must have a at least some of the files I listed. this guy/girl i'm talking about i think was a big fan of Creed because after one "bad" peformance they went back not just once but twice. Sounds like one of the people mamm described who was turned off but I think could still possibly be turned around.

About the comparsions between Eddie's and Scott's voices honestly its a huge honour for Scott's voice to be compared to Ed's. Ed was the one who made the Jim Morrison esque baritone popular in the early 90's and many have been accused of copying his style. If you have "Lost Dogs" you will see Eddie's big range in such songs as "Sad", "Fatal" and "Otherside." He didn't really get that range until No Code so I think we can give Scott some time with that. There were signs in Weathered that this is happening eg:WGMB, Hide, Don't Stop Dancing, and of course Lullaby. You compare Torn and Lullaby there is some serious range there.

Dogstar · 12-27-2003, 05:52 AM

Hide, the bootlegs I have are on CD, so I don't have them in mp3 format and I don't know how to get them to that format. I also don't know how to set them up so that people could download them, other than through Kazaa or something. I also have dial-up, which is slow as molasses. Anyway, if you have any suggestions, I'd be happy to help and share.

hide · 12-27-2003, 05:56 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dogstar) Hide, the bootlegs I have are on CD, so I don't have them in mp3 format and I don't know how to get them to that format. I also don't know how to set them up so that people could download them, other than through Kazaa or something. I also have dial-up, which is slow as molasses. Anyway, if you have any suggestions, I'd be happy to help and share.

thats cool i'm sure what to suggest, but there must be some dudes here with heaps of mp3's up on their comps.

Joge78 · 12-28-2003, 09:38 PM

I love Scott's voice, Eddie's voice and Bono's voice and Nickleback's voice.

bgivens33 · 12-28-2003, 10:16 PM

I wasn't really comparing Stapps and Vedders vocal style(although they are similar)..... I was more or less saying that Stapp reminds me of Vedder on stage. They both have a similar stage presence. Oh by the way.... I LOVE Bono's voice as well... along with James from Metallica.... both very distinct voices. And then there's Keenan

Dogstar · 12-28-2003, 10:21 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by bgivens33) I wasn't really comparing Stapps and Vedders vocal style(although they are similar)..... I was more or less saying that Stapp reminds me of Vedder on stage. They both have a similar stage presence. Oh by the way.... I LOVE Bono's voice as well... along with James from Metallica.... both very distinct voices. And then there's Keenan

All of them ROCK! Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaynard!!!

WeatheredWoman · 12-28-2003, 10:48 PM

Yup !

Would love 2 see them ALL 2gether on stage... LIVE !!!

bgivens33 · 12-29-2003, 03:16 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dogstar) All of them ROCK! Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaynard!!!

ok, that's it... me and you are going on a date.... are you free friday night??

Dogstar · 12-29-2003, 04:26 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by bgivens33) ok, that's it... me and you are going on a date.... are you free friday night??

LOL, too funny!!! I'm totally obsessed with Maynard/Tool/APC right now. Just can't get enough of them!!!

12-26-2003, 09:03 PM	#16
WeatheredWoman USER INFO » Status: Shackled Hero Posts: 2,722 Joined: Nov 2003 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by Dogstar) I love Ed's vibrato and the emotion he brings to the music. Both of them are wonderful, though I think Ed has a bit more range. Ok that's your personal flavour! Everyone has his own... luckily!! Otherwise it would be a very boring world... wouldn't it? __________________ ________________________ ______________________________ Souls... they float like the memories I've opened, Go... and kiss all the butterflies I've broken, Sow... their wings to the coat of my misfortune, Grow... to reach the plains only I have spoken... The Path ~by~ ManMade God

12-26-2003, 09:07 PM	#17
Dogstar Forum Diplomat USER INFO » Status: Young Grown Old Posts: 21,345 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	Well, mamm1234, I WAS on the rail, on Mark's side, and most people, save a few, were taking the whole thing in stride, at least the people near me. One woman was upset that he was swearing because she had her son with her who was about 12, and yeah, a few people were like, WTF? I know what issues you are talking about, so why don't you lose your own arrogant tone, thank you. Sheesh...And wasn't the intro video to Whose Got My Back? I thought the video was for that one, not Hide, but I could be wrong. And the announcer came on to say there was a power outage. __________________ Silly monkeys give them thumbs they make a club and beat their brother down. How they survive so misguided is a mystery. Last edited by Dogstar : 12-26-2003 at 09:10 PM.

12-26-2003, 09:08 PM	#18
Dogstar Forum Diplomat USER INFO » Status: Young Grown Old Posts: 21,345 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by WeatheredWoman) Ok that's your personal flavour! Everyone has his own... luckily!! Otherwise it would be a very boring world... wouldn't it? LOL, very true, WeatheredWoman. __________________ Silly monkeys give them thumbs they make a club and beat their brother down. How they survive so misguided is a mystery.

12-26-2003, 09:12 PM	#19
WeatheredWoman USER INFO » Status: Shackled Hero Posts: 2,722 Joined: Nov 2003 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by Dogstar) LOL, very true, WeatheredWoman. Allrighty then ! __________________ ________________________ ______________________________ Souls... they float like the memories I've opened, Go... and kiss all the butterflies I've broken, Sow... their wings to the coat of my misfortune, Grow... to reach the plains only I have spoken... The Path ~by~ ManMade God

12-26-2003, 09:50 PM	#21
Dogstar Forum Diplomat USER INFO » Status: Young Grown Old Posts: 21,345 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	Apology accepted, mamm1234 . I, too, stayed overnight and spent quite a bit and froze my a** off waiting outside, LOL. I don't know, having been to so many concerts over the years, I have seen far worse than what happened at Penn State, so I guess it didn't faze me much. Plus, they at least finished what they could of the show. I can understand your frustration. But, hey, at least it wasn't as bad as Chicago. Hey, and Philly more than made up for Penn State, though ... I agree that management did Creed a disservice by adding so many shows. I think that was the second or third show in PA on the Weathered tour, so maybe people had had their fill. Dunno, but I wouldn't expect a band to actually keep people informed of delays and such because they are usually trying to prepare for the show. I would think the promoters or management or someone at the venue would have that responsibility, but who knows? __________________ Silly monkeys give them thumbs they make a club and beat their brother down. How they survive so misguided is a mystery.

12-26-2003, 09:23 PM	#20
mamm1234 USER INFO » Status: Misconception Posts: 121 Joined: May 2003 Currently: Offline	You're right dogstar, I'm sorry if I'm coming on too strong but that show still hits a sore spot with me.I rarely talk about it because I just don't like talking crap about Creed because I love them too much. One of the other reasons I say all of Creed (including or maybe mostly management)is too blame for a lot of what happened last fall was because they were still adding shows after the cancellations because of Scott's voice. So when I saw they added State College, I was a little apprehensive but trusted Creed that everything was OK. Why else would they be adding shows. For me State college meant taking off from work, and the expenses of staying overnight. So it was a very expensive show for me. And don't forget how the night started out. it was freezing and raining and the first hint something was wrong was when they delayed opening the doors to let us in. (Those of us with GA tickets and who were outside turning to ice cubes) But you know what, even after that, I went to Philly (another show that was added and also had to spend the night because I love these guys so much.

12-27-2003, 05:28 AM	#22
hide USER INFO » Status: INK'ed Posts: 919 Joined: Feb 2003 Currently: Offline	can't anyone help me? surely some of you guys must have a at least some of the files I listed. this guy/girl i'm talking about i think was a big fan of Creed because after one "bad" peformance they went back not just once but twice. Sounds like one of the people mamm described who was turned off but I think could still possibly be turned around. About the comparsions between Eddie's and Scott's voices honestly its a huge honour for Scott's voice to be compared to Ed's. Ed was the one who made the Jim Morrison esque baritone popular in the early 90's and many have been accused of copying his style. If you have "Lost Dogs" you will see Eddie's big range in such songs as "Sad", "Fatal" and "Otherside." He didn't really get that range until No Code so I think we can give Scott some time with that. There were signs in Weathered that this is happening eg:WGMB, Hide, Don't Stop Dancing, and of course Lullaby. You compare Torn and Lullaby there is some serious range there. __________________ come on all you PJ loving Creeders come and look and also post at the busiest and funniest board around (excluding here of course LOL) http://forums.pearljam.com

12-27-2003, 05:52 AM	#23
Dogstar Forum Diplomat USER INFO » Status: Young Grown Old Posts: 21,345 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	Hide, the bootlegs I have are on CD, so I don't have them in mp3 format and I don't know how to get them to that format. I also don't know how to set them up so that people could download them, other than through Kazaa or something. I also have dial-up, which is slow as molasses. Anyway, if you have any suggestions, I'd be happy to help and share. __________________ Silly monkeys give them thumbs they make a club and beat their brother down. How they survive so misguided is a mystery.

12-27-2003, 05:56 AM	#24
hide USER INFO » Status: INK'ed Posts: 919 Joined: Feb 2003 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by Dogstar) Hide, the bootlegs I have are on CD, so I don't have them in mp3 format and I don't know how to get them to that format. I also don't know how to set them up so that people could download them, other than through Kazaa or something. I also have dial-up, which is slow as molasses. Anyway, if you have any suggestions, I'd be happy to help and share. thats cool i'm sure what to suggest, but there must be some dudes here with heaps of mp3's up on their comps. __________________ come on all you PJ loving Creeders come and look and also post at the busiest and funniest board around (excluding here of course LOL) http://forums.pearljam.com

12-28-2003, 10:16 PM	#26
bgivens33 USER INFO » Status: Naked Toddler Posts: 226 Joined: Apr 2003 Currently: Offline	I wasn't really comparing Stapps and Vedders vocal style(although they are similar)..... I was more or less saying that Stapp reminds me of Vedder on stage. They both have a similar stage presence. Oh by the way.... I LOVE Bono's voice as well... along with James from Metallica.... both very distinct voices. And then there's Keenan

12-28-2003, 10:21 PM	#27
Dogstar Forum Diplomat USER INFO » Status: Young Grown Old Posts: 21,345 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by bgivens33) I wasn't really comparing Stapps and Vedders vocal style(although they are similar)..... I was more or less saying that Stapp reminds me of Vedder on stage. They both have a similar stage presence. Oh by the way.... I LOVE Bono's voice as well... along with James from Metallica.... both very distinct voices. And then there's Keenan All of them ROCK! Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaynard!!! __________________ Silly monkeys give them thumbs they make a club and beat their brother down. How they survive so misguided is a mystery.

12-28-2003, 10:48 PM	#28
WeatheredWoman USER INFO » Status: Shackled Hero Posts: 2,722 Joined: Nov 2003 Currently: Offline	Yup ! Would love 2 see them ALL 2gether on stage... LIVE !!! __________________ ________________________ ______________________________ Souls... they float like the memories I've opened, Go... and kiss all the butterflies I've broken, Sow... their wings to the coat of my misfortune, Grow... to reach the plains only I have spoken... The Path ~by~ ManMade God

12-29-2003, 03:16 AM	#29
bgivens33 USER INFO » Status: Naked Toddler Posts: 226 Joined: Apr 2003 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by Dogstar) All of them ROCK! Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaynard!!! ok, that's it... me and you are going on a date.... are you free friday night??

12-29-2003, 04:26 AM	#30
Dogstar Forum Diplomat USER INFO » Status: Young Grown Old Posts: 21,345 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by bgivens33) ok, that's it... me and you are going on a date.... are you free friday night?? LOL, too funny!!! I'm totally obsessed with Maynard/Tool/APC right now. Just can't get enough of them!!! __________________ Silly monkeys give them thumbs they make a club and beat their brother down. How they survive so misguided is a mystery.

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