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Stapp involved in another fight!
If you haven't heard this already... Apparantly on Thanksgiving Stapp entered a hotel bar drunk, got into an argument with the hotel concilearge (sp?) and then proceeded to get into a fight with two members from the band 311. Here's a statement from 311:
Another thread here One of the band members actually told the same story during an interview on KROQ radio today as well. This is almost a mirror of his previous "bar fights." You can only give him the benefit of doubt so many times... just when it seems he's getting his act together this has to happen...
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Ahaa! So there is some truth to this! (see regis and kelly thread).
Exactly. I am finding it harder and harder to defend him... |
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He lives such a double life with what he is trying to portray in the media and then what he does in the night scene.
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Yea, the song Justify was about him playing poker, not playing poker, getting shitfaced, and trying to beat up everyone in the bar. lol
Stapp does lead a double life, and its ridiculous that he would do shit like this. People dont realize that what he is on the scene isnt what he truly is off camera, yet people worship him still? This makes no sense to me. All you hear from him is "Oh, ive changed my life around, i am a christian, bla bla bla" Well, Scott, To be a christian means to be Christ-Like in life, and i dont think that Jesus, went out, got liqored up, and beat people up when they had a problem with the word he was speaking. He turned the other cheek, otherwise, all of the people who crucified him would have been smolten off of the face of the earth..he was, in fact, the son of god.
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Being a Christian means recognizing your sins and asking for forgiveness from the higher power. No one can be "Christ-Like." Anyway... that's irrelevent. I honestly don't give a crap about who Stapp beats up, last time I checked... that had nothing to do with making music. I hate drug use... but that doesn't mean that I'll boycott every musician from Scott Weiland to Jimi Hendrix. Recently in rock, we've seen Disturbed beat up Finch... and Godsmack crew members beat up Story of the Year. Who ever said being a rock star is a gentleman's game? Look at Liam Gallagher of Oasis. That man is CONSTANTLY instigating feuds. That doesn't change the fact that his band created some of the best songs of the 1990s. I mean... why do people act surprised that Stapp has a temper? He's written songs like "Fight Song," "Bullets," and "What If." Bottom line... NONE OF US were there and there is no public evidence that this happened. For all we know... 311 has a dislike for Stapp and saw these rumors as a good way to slander Stapp. What Stapp does in his personal life has nothing to do with me. I listen to his music and enjoy his lyrics. Rarely, will you find a SAINT in rock music. Kurt Cobain would instigate fights constantly... that did not affect Nirvana's popularity at all.
I dunno... I still remember when Godsmack said that Stapp was being a dick to some handicapped guy in a wheelchair. It's all words to me when someone can't provide a thread of evidence to back it up. I think you're jumping to conclusions too fast Steve... Stapp is an artist who is intensely hated and also adored. He's an easy target. To me, this is like Michael Moore saying that the President is a liar. If the source can't really provide evidence... then is the defendent guilty? Or is he/she innocent until PROVEN guilty? If this is true... then I wish the band that was there was Good Charlotte. Last edited by Chase : 12-01-2005 at 05:11 AM. |
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give me a break, scott stapp is not a target for anyone, most people dont even know his name and hes clearly not a threat to anyone or any musician for being a victim of that sort of stuff. seeing what an ass stapp is, is simpler than 2+2 for me, why is it so hard for others to see this! this is whats bothering me, i allready know hes fucked up and none of this surprises me but the fact that people keep on defending him does.
stapp should dissappear instead of giving out new albums, this way he might be able to keep a good name for himself for at most a few years! Wind-Up should consider that Last edited by sina2b : 12-01-2005 at 05:42 AM. |
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Kurt Cobain wasnt a fake ass christ wannabe, he was open about his issues, his drug problems and his behavior and on top of all his songs were relevant to his personality, but stapp is trying to sell an image that is non existant and people buying that image really pisses me off. if you think there's nothing wrong with bush, than clearly there shouldnt be anything wrong with stapp either. Were not trying to proove any political facts here by the letter, were just using our brains. Last edited by sina2b : 12-01-2005 at 06:05 AM. |
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so I guess Lora and I are still liars???
I told you so... Btw... do you know who's NOT with Stapp anymore due a brawl? Kimi...
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dont worry about that they'll still find a way to make you a liar so technichally u still are lol
quota: Btw... do you know who's NOT with Stapp anymore due a brawl? Kimi... what?? |
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yeah, Kimi, his former personal assistant, also got in a brawl with Stapp and showed up on Hanson's office asking for a job.
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He he he, Hansons! :P
(I provided so much for this thred!)
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exactly I don't believe it at all. do you remember what finch said after 2 members of disturbed beat up them and their whole crew after finch provoked them?? similar to what these guys are saying about scott stapp. it wasn't our fault bla bla bla. Scott is a nice guy ok he wouldn't start unprovoked on 3 people. this is bullshit |
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Well remember - Jesus did go into the temple and tear the place up, flipping tables and whatnot, because they were selling things in the holy place which was an act that went against the word he was preaching. Who knows how much wine he had before that incident I have to apologize Bridge of Clay - i said in the other thread that I doubted the story, but now that there is a band posting about it...it seems a bit more credible. At the same time however I agree with Chase - Stapp is an easy target due to his past life, but we'll see. Especially on December 6 when that show airs on Spike...should be interesting to see if he's really smashed like the article says. |
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Actually its very hard to not believe in this kind of news coming from Stapp ...and Im not judging him...but hes constantly dissapointing his fans... I really think his music is more important than his private life but acting this way (in public) is very disrespectful with lots of people.
And okay, like Chase said Liam Gallagher, Kurt Cobain and lots of 'rockstars' were involved in fights, (some -several times), but I never saw none of them claiming "I changed, now Im another man... I was saved"...etc...etc... Also, easy target???? Who did creat this 'image'? Just curious...
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