Let´s stop it

[Bridge of Clay]

okay... I think we´re done with it, more than enough...

Leechium is being the topic of some heated debates here, but let´s get things straight:

1. I´ll not defend Leech in this post, but see my point:
~ Since he came back to the board, he hasn´t offended anyone.

Before, he made people pissed, teased them, bashed Creed, sent some unpleasant PMs to a few, disrepected the others and pushed them to their limits. That´s why so many people don´t like him,

Now, he got easy. Except for his point of view on religion, specifically about Christianity, he showed his point and questioned the others´ beliefs. A lil bitter, but he didn´t force anyone to become an agnostic/whatever he is.

The majority here is Christian, and some are trying to convert Leechium to Christianity. Let it go... Don´t push the guy, but everybody is welcomed to expose their point of views. Remember disagreeing is healthy. If you present a good argument, be sure the other may accept it and share your idea, but just don´t force the other to agree with something he doesn´t. I´m not saying only about the Leechium case. I made the same mistake once.

The fact is since Leechium came back, he showed he´s changed.
Isn´t it always about you get what you give? He didn´t disrespect anybody, why are we disrespecting him?

anyway, that´s just my

[Lechium]

Oh man a voice of reason.

Well dont underestimate the power of habit. People are used to dislike me, so things I say are being interprited in the worst way possible, and if you made some of posts I did, you'd get much better responce. Just human nature -- people are inclined to see what the want to see, rather that what's really there.

[hayley]

You just get on peoples nerves easily....it's just you

[marlsy]

sorry Marcos, but if he is gonna be an a-hole, he will be treated as one, if he wants to be nice he will be treated nicely. End of story. That's my 2 cents. I don't dislike him, hate him or anything, but if he wants to agrue just for the sake of arguing then I don't think he will be treated nicely here. I really think that's why he is here, he loves to piss people off. Just my opinion.

[Lechium]

You have yoru oppinion and I have mine. Why when I express my oppinion I get branded as an asshole, while you can express yours all you want without getting such status. In addition I got called names quiet a few times as of lateley, while I never lowered myself to calling you guys names. It seems like there's double standart going on here, and you have hard time respecting people with opponiosn differnt from yours.

[marlsy]

you just don't know how to talk to people, when you express your opinion it's more of your right everyone else is wrong. I respect everyones opinions, noone is gonna agree on everything, dosn't mean you have to get into someones face about it and be so damn negetive all the time.

[Lechium]

Im not the one who's being negative here.
Lets take religion debate.

Many people here: you either belive in Jesus or you go to hell for all eternety to suffer!
Me: well it is possible, but maybe not.
These people: it's so sad, but you'll go to hell if you dont accept Jesus
Me: umm there gotta be options. It doesnt make sence that millions of people will suffer for eternty just cuz they dont belive what book told them to.

See? I'm saying that maybe things can work out either way, while others say that its either their way or eternety of suffering.

[marlsy]

I understand your thinking on that, you have the right to believe in what you want, I don't think anyone should shove their religion down anyones throat. You believe what you believe. They believe what they believe, Christians are told to save people, they really think you will go to hell if you do not believe in Christ as God's son, they really are just trying to save you that's all. Don't take it as a negative thing. I am a Christian also so that is what I believe, you have the right to believe what you want.

Religion and Politics, good subjects NOT to talk about!!! It WILL turn heated no matter what usually.

[Marty]

I am a Christian, I'm not afraid to tell you. But I've learned over the years that you can't convert someone to believing in Christ. Its their decision. Lechium is not a Christian, so what. Its his decision. I'm not going to get in his face and say BELIEVE OR DIE! He seems like a smart fellow, so leave him along.

I agree, some of his previous posts did tick me a bit off, but I'm not calling him a asshole, or anything else. Leave him alone, you know what subjects not to discuss, so don't discuss them with him. Lechium, you could help by not posting in the topics (like Religious topcs) where you could get branded a asshole, or where you could (on purpose or not) get everyone on edge.

Come on guys. Its called tollerance.

This isn't meant to offend if it does.
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HEAT GUN VAPORIZERS

[Redeemer]

I like Lechium. He's funny sometimes. If he doesn't like Creed, or whatever, that's his choice. If he doesn't believe in Christianity, whatever, because I don't even know what I believe in anymore, so whatever. You can't change his views, so don't try. Just accept him for what he is and accept the fact that some ppl do have different views and some ppl don't exactly present these views in a nice way. That's just the way he is, and even a few angry flaming posts from us isn't gonna change him.

Same as Dude...this isn't meant to offend if it does.

[Bridge of Clay]

Marlsy, I agree with you. Leechium did on my nerves before he left he board. But now he´s being labeled like the Leechium he was before when such thing shouldn´t happen, since he seems to be changed. He didn´t disrespect anybody now...

I mean, we should focus on more interesting threads: we got 3 about him. I created another one, but the intent of this is to end the Leechium debate.

I´m not trying to defend him. He did wrong things before, really wrong things on PMs, but since he cane back he didn´t... that´s it

[goddess_bb]

Wow, I second Marcos..though I was not here before I have not seen anything naughty from Leechium...
On the note of being chirstian or not I must say I have the most respect for people who keep their faith to themselves instead of shoving it down my throat...before I get bashed for this let me say I have a relationship with God but I think religion SUCKS!!

[JulieCitySlicker]

Not to be mean but I don't get why he came back

[Redeemer]

He likes us. He knows he does.

[Lechium]

Quote:

Originally posted by goddess_bb
Wow, I second Marcos..though I was not here before I have not seen anything naughty from Leechium...
 On the note of being chirstian or not I must say I have the most respect for people who keep their faith to themselves instead of shoving it down my throat...before I get bashed for this let me say I have a relationship with God but I think religion SUCKS!!

Ditto. There's no need a middle man. And we do not need multi million dollar churches.
Although I do sorta like Dalai Lama, but he doesnt preach and doesnt scare anyone with grim prospects of what will happen if you dont conform. He is just a happy guy who tries to make people around him happy.