Stapp Cancells Rockline Appearance...

Steve · 12-03-2005, 12:53 PM

Stapp has cancelled his rockline appearance this coming December 5th... hrmm.. if Stapp doesn't start addressing the 311 fiasco and possibly the Casino Night event on Spike TV, his image is going to drop even lower than it may already be. This really isn't looking good.

titan9 · 12-03-2005, 01:01 PM

I would say that this was probably WU's idea. They're probably hoping that by keeping him quiet, the whole thing will die down and just go away by itself without an explanation on their part. However, I don't think that'll be the case. I think the best thing for WU/Stapp to do at this point is to have Stapp tape an apology and put that on his web site, maybe even get it on the news. Even if he didn't start the fight and just taunted 311(by calling S.A.'s wife a name or whatever) he was still at fault. If he wants to save his image, an apology to 311, his fans and his record label would be the best thing right now. Admitting that he was wrong will show that he knows his actions weren't justifiable and that he is truly sorry for what he did .

Dogstar · 12-03-2005, 01:04 PM

Yes, this is bad, given that the CD just came out.

Dogstar · 12-03-2005, 01:07 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by titan9) I would say that this was probably WU's idea. They're probably hoping that by keeping him quiet, the whole thing will die down and just go away by itself without an explanation on their part. However, I don't think that'll be the case. I think the best thing for WU/Stapp to do at this point is to have Stapp tape an apology and put that on his web site, maybe even get it on the news. Even if he didn't start the fight and just taunted 311(by calling S.A.'s wife a name or whatever) he was still at fault. If he wants to save his image, an apology to 311, his fans and his record label would be the best thing right now. Admitting that he was wrong will show that he knows his actions weren't justifiable and that he is truly sorry for what he did .

Back in the old days, its just going away might have happened. But with the advent of the internet and communication being what it is and so many people having access, it won't just die down. People are getting used to having access to their musical idols on the web. Some artists have embraced it, while others haven't. I hate to say it, but Stapp hasn't exactly been tops when it comes to admitting wrongdoing or apologizing.

evyllsummer · 12-03-2005, 01:24 PM

I wouldn't doubt that it IS Windup's idea, as it IS quite a BAD idea, and they have quite an extensive history of bad ideas...at least lately...

Trimontana · 12-03-2005, 01:27 PM

If he would say for once that it was his fault or give an apologie i would take my hat off for the guy for once in my life. Or he tries to leave behind him his attitude problem or his reputation will be the worst one on the rock buisness. I wish the guy was in different way so his music career would be better

Steve · 12-03-2005, 01:32 PM

I bet Rockline tried to get 311 to come on live once Stapp cancelled. That would have been their best choice as a business. Who wouldn't tune in to hear what 311 had to say regarding the incident. Unfortunately 311 just happens to be performing in my home town Dec 5 heh

Dogstar · 12-03-2005, 01:35 PM

LOL, bummer, Steve.

Bridge of Clay · 12-03-2005, 01:44 PM

ALTER BRIDGE is replacing Stapp on ROCKLINE!!!

Not only it's ALTER BRIDGE, but it's an ENCORE, which means they'll re-air one of their previous interviews to replace live Stapp!

Tell me about Karma!!!

I gotta give props to titan, though. Always an optimistic! Seriously, we need more optimism these days! (no, I'm not being sarcastic, I really mean it!)

titan9 · 12-03-2005, 02:47 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dogstar) Back in the old days, its just going away might have happened. But with the advent of the internet and communication being what it is and so many people having access, it won't just die down. People are getting used to having access to their musical idols on the web. Some artists have embraced it, while others haven't. I hate to say it, but Stapp hasn't exactly been tops when it comes to admitting wrongdoing or apologizing.

Totally agree, which is why I'd like to think he'd do things differently this time, own up for it and apologize for his part in it.

Quote: (Originally Posted by evyllsummer) I wouldn't doubt that it IS Windup's idea, as it IS quite a BAD idea, and they have quite an extensive history of bad ideas...at least lately...

I'm really starting to believe in that theory that Wind-Up is run by monkey's....

Quote: (Originally Posted by Bridge of Clay) I gotta give props to titan, though. Always an optimistic! Seriously, we need more optimism these days! (no, I'm not being sarcastic, I really mean it!)

Thanks for the props, man.

Really, all I can do as a fan is be optimistic. It's either that or join in with the cynics who are shredding him to pieces(and perhaps rightfully so). I still believe he can be a successful solo artist, but only if he addresses his problems, apologizes, tours extensively and puts out good music. He's put out a good debut(imo), but he apparently hasn't done those other things yet. Being positive in times like these is hard; being negative is easy. I'll take the hard way anyday.

evyllsummer · 12-03-2005, 03:16 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by titan9) I'm really starting to believe in that theory that Wind-Up is run by monkeys....

oh, come ON...monkeys could do a better job than THAT...I mean, haven't you seen Project X? LOL...

emissarygtrist · 12-03-2005, 03:57 PM

"Well it seems I've finally thought of (heard) everything..."

I think I'm gonna put in a real band's CD.... Found it!!!

LOL WoW I know that was chezzy lol

Steve · 12-03-2005, 04:27 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Bridge of Clay) ALTER BRIDGE is replacing Stapp on ROCKLINE!!!

Not only it's ALTER BRIDGE, but it's an ENCORE, which means they'll re-air one of their previous interviews to replace live Stapp!

Tell me about Karma!!!

I gotta give props to titan, though. Always an optimistic! Seriously, we need more optimism these days! (no, I'm not being sarcastic, I really mean it!)

It would have been even better if it were a new, live interview with AB!

titan9 · 12-03-2005, 06:31 PM

Agreed, and at first I thought it was new. Oh well.

uncertaindrumer · 12-03-2005, 09:04 PM

The irony is thick...

12-03-2005, 01:01 PM	#2
titan9 USER INFO » Status: Bound and Tied Posts: 2,134 Joined: Dec 2004 Currently: Offline	I would say that this was probably WU's idea. They're probably hoping that by keeping him quiet, the whole thing will die down and just go away by itself without an explanation on their part. However, I don't think that'll be the case. I think the best thing for WU/Stapp to do at this point is to have Stapp tape an apology and put that on his web site, maybe even get it on the news. Even if he didn't start the fight and just taunted 311(by calling S.A.'s wife a name or whatever) he was still at fault. If he wants to save his image, an apology to 311, his fans and his record label would be the best thing right now. Admitting that he was wrong will show that he knows his actions weren't justifiable and that he is truly sorry for what he did . __________________ Visit the 12 Stones Fan Community, 12stonesfans.com! Check out my friend's Music blog by here!

12-03-2005, 01:04 PM	#3
Dogstar Forum Diplomat USER INFO » Status: Young Grown Old Posts: 21,345 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	Yes, this is bad, given that the CD just came out. __________________ Silly monkeys give them thumbs they make a club and beat their brother down. How they survive so misguided is a mystery.

12-03-2005, 01:07 PM	#4
Dogstar Forum Diplomat USER INFO » Status: Young Grown Old Posts: 21,345 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by titan9) I would say that this was probably WU's idea. They're probably hoping that by keeping him quiet, the whole thing will die down and just go away by itself without an explanation on their part. However, I don't think that'll be the case. I think the best thing for WU/Stapp to do at this point is to have Stapp tape an apology and put that on his web site, maybe even get it on the news. Even if he didn't start the fight and just taunted 311(by calling S.A.'s wife a name or whatever) he was still at fault. If he wants to save his image, an apology to 311, his fans and his record label would be the best thing right now. Admitting that he was wrong will show that he knows his actions weren't justifiable and that he is truly sorry for what he did . Back in the old days, its just going away might have happened. But with the advent of the internet and communication being what it is and so many people having access, it won't just die down. People are getting used to having access to their musical idols on the web. Some artists have embraced it, while others haven't. I hate to say it, but Stapp hasn't exactly been tops when it comes to admitting wrongdoing or apologizing. __________________ Silly monkeys give them thumbs they make a club and beat their brother down. How they survive so misguided is a mystery.

12-03-2005, 01:27 PM	#6
Trimontana USER INFO » Status: Bound and Tied Posts: 2,145 Joined: Oct 2004 Currently: Offline	If he would say for once that it was his fault or give an apologie i would take my hat off for the guy for once in my life. Or he tries to leave behind him his attitude problem or his reputation will be the worst one on the rock buisness. I wish the guy was in different way so his music career would be better __________________ Papa Roach's Tobin Esperance: "If you're gonna wear makeup, it's not about looking pretty. It's gotta look like you've been up all night doing drugs."

12-03-2005, 01:35 PM	#8
Dogstar Forum Diplomat USER INFO » Status: Young Grown Old Posts: 21,345 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	LOL, bummer, Steve. __________________ Silly monkeys give them thumbs they make a club and beat their brother down. How they survive so misguided is a mystery.

12-03-2005, 01:24 PM	#5
evyllsummer USER INFO » Status: A Melody Posts: 442 Joined: Sep 2004 Currently: Offline	I wouldn't doubt that it IS Windup's idea, as it IS quite a BAD idea, and they have quite an extensive history of bad ideas...at least lately...

12-03-2005, 01:44 PM	#9
Bridge of Clay USER INFO » Status: Tree of Wisdom Posts: 8,025 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	ALTER BRIDGE is replacing Stapp on ROCKLINE!!! Not only it's ALTER BRIDGE, but it's an ENCORE, which means they'll re-air one of their previous interviews to replace live Stapp! Tell me about Karma!!! I gotta give props to titan, though. Always an optimistic! Seriously, we need more optimism these days! (no, I'm not being sarcastic, I really mean it!) __________________ .:: "If people don't like guitar solos... then they're frikkin' stupid!" - Mark Tremonti ::.

12-03-2005, 02:47 PM	#10
titan9 USER INFO » Status: Bound and Tied Posts: 2,134 Joined: Dec 2004 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by Dogstar) Back in the old days, its just going away might have happened. But with the advent of the internet and communication being what it is and so many people having access, it won't just die down. People are getting used to having access to their musical idols on the web. Some artists have embraced it, while others haven't. I hate to say it, but Stapp hasn't exactly been tops when it comes to admitting wrongdoing or apologizing. Totally agree, which is why I'd like to think he'd do things differently this time, own up for it and apologize for his part in it. Quote: (Originally Posted by evyllsummer) I wouldn't doubt that it IS Windup's idea, as it IS quite a BAD idea, and they have quite an extensive history of bad ideas...at least lately... I'm really starting to believe in that theory that Wind-Up is run by monkey's.... Quote: (Originally Posted by Bridge of Clay) I gotta give props to titan, though. Always an optimistic! Seriously, we need more optimism these days! (no, I'm not being sarcastic, I really mean it!) Thanks for the props, man. Really, all I can do as a fan is be optimistic. It's either that or join in with the cynics who are shredding him to pieces(and perhaps rightfully so). I still believe he can be a successful solo artist, but only if he addresses his problems, apologizes, tours extensively and puts out good music. He's put out a good debut(imo), but he apparently hasn't done those other things yet. Being positive in times like these is hard; being negative is easy. I'll take the hard way anyday. __________________ Visit the 12 Stones Fan Community, 12stonesfans.com! Check out my friend's Music blog by here!

12-03-2005, 03:16 PM	#11
evyllsummer USER INFO » Status: A Melody Posts: 442 Joined: Sep 2004 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by titan9) I'm really starting to believe in that theory that Wind-Up is run by monkeys.... oh, come ON...monkeys could do a better job than THAT...I mean, haven't you seen Project X? LOL...

12-03-2005, 03:57 PM	#12
emissarygtrist USER INFO » Status: Unspoken Posts: 46 Joined: Nov 2005 Currently: Offline	"Well it seems I've finally thought of (heard) everything..." I think I'm gonna put in a real band's CD.... Found it!!! LOL WoW I know that was chezzy lol

12-03-2005, 06:31 PM	#14
titan9 USER INFO » Status: Bound and Tied Posts: 2,134 Joined: Dec 2004 Currently: Offline	Agreed, and at first I thought it was new. Oh well. __________________ Visit the 12 Stones Fan Community, 12stonesfans.com! Check out my friend's Music blog by here!

12-03-2005, 09:04 PM	#15
uncertaindrumer USER INFO » Status: Wound Up Posts: 1,255 Joined: Dec 2004 Currently: Offline	The irony is thick... __________________ Titans baby, Titans.

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