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Chase · 12-10-2005, 07:51 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Ana4Stapp) If you were an artist and someone said you were involved in a fight that you really werent waht would you do? would you keep quiet ? even if this silence would ruin your career?

and thanks for the law's information...

It all depends on the circumstances. I don't think him being silent for a couple days just ruined his career. Scott Weiland was a drug addict flake... but his career is still going strong. I would do what I would be advised to do. It would be different is Stapp was dropped by Wind Up... then you could say tha he really hit an obstacle.

Ana4Stapp · 12-10-2005, 07:55 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Chase) It all depends on the circumstances. I don't think him being silent for a couple days just ruined his career. Scott Weiland was a drug addict flake... but his career is still going strong. I would do what I would be advised to do. It would be different is Stapp was dropped by Wind Up... then you could say tha he really hit an obstacle.

Like I said in the other thread ?!(not sure cuz we're in two or three !

) he has antecedents...you saw his interview at casino cinema???? It was so disappointing Chase that you have no idea...

Stappishot · 12-10-2005, 08:07 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Chase) It all depends on the circumstances. I don't think him being silent for a couple days just ruined his career. Scott Weiland was a drug addict flake... but his career is still going strong. I would do what I would be advised to do. It would be different is Stapp was dropped by Wind Up... then you could say tha he really hit an obstacle.

But the difference here is who didn't know that Scott Weiland was into drugs, that was know surprise, it wasn't shocking to know that at all. Because he didn't put a front on trying to say no I don't do this and no, I don't do that. And now here is Scott Stapp saying on mancow show how he doesn't drink and he'll give it to his girlfriend. But now we see that Scott Stapp does drink, and maybe a little to much. See with a lot of rock stars, u don't have to second guess, cause we see them do stupid things all the time, and they don't try to back it up saying this and that, we just know how they are already. But Scott covers his shit up alot and tries to be this man that he's not, and now he's paying the price, example of paying the price, a lot of his fans a not happy.

Chase · 12-11-2005, 01:40 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Stappishot) But the difference here is who didn't know that Scott Weiland was into drugs, that was know surprise, it wasn't shocking to know that at all. Because he didn't put a front on trying to say no I don't do this and no, I don't do that. And now here is Scott Stapp saying on mancow show how he doesn't drink and he'll give it to his girlfriend. But now we see that Scott Stapp does drink, and maybe a little to much. See with a lot of rock stars, u don't have to second guess, cause we see them do stupid things all the time, and they don't try to back it up saying this and that, we just know how they are already. But Scott covers his shit up alot and tries to be this man that he's not, and now he's paying the price, example of paying the price, a lot of his fans a not happy.

I don't remember Stapp never saying he doesn't drink. I remember in a Rolling Stone article where Stapp relaxed and had a beer after a concert. Also... one of the times that Weiland was arrested... I remember him denying the charges. Sure, a lot of fans aren't happy. But there are also a lot of fans who don't really care about what he does in his personal life.

Stappishot · 12-11-2005, 02:28 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Chase) I don't remember Stapp never saying he doesn't drink. I remember in a Rolling Stone article where Stapp relaxed and had a beer after a concert. Also... one of the times that Weiland was arrested... I remember him denying the charges. Sure, a lot of fans aren't happy. But there are also a lot of fans who don't really care about what he does in his personal life.

Well u must of missed that interview, that was the one when he was in Chicago promoting his solo album. Ok so weiland denied a charge, but does it really surprise u if Weiland denied charges or does drugs? If Weiland came on the Casino show drunk, would it be a big deal? Yes, a lot of his fans don't care what he does in his personal life, but some of fans do. But i'll tell ya this, I wanna see how the rest of his solo career does, cause I believe in 2nd chances.

Muad'Dib · 12-11-2005, 03:13 AM

Fans cared about Weiland and his personal life mainly cos it was life threatening. Stapp went on TV drunk, big deal! Everyone makes mistakes, what he does about it after is what matters. If he continues doing it then it becomes a problem. One incident is not going to jeopardise his career, right now hes probably viewed as Wind-Ups biggest money maker, they arent going to drop him.

Robin101 · 12-11-2005, 11:13 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Muad'Dib) Fans cared about Weiland and his personal life mainly cos it was life threatening. Stapp went on TV drunk, big deal! Everyone makes mistakes, what he does about it after is what matters. If he continues doing it then it becomes a problem. One incident is not going to jeopardise his career, right now hes probably viewed as Wind-Ups biggest money maker, they arent going to drop him.

Ahh...finally - agreed!

Stappishot · 12-11-2005, 12:08 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Muad'Dib) Fans cared about Weiland and his personal life mainly cos it was life threatening. Stapp went on TV drunk, big deal! Everyone makes mistakes, what he does about it after is what matters. If he continues doing it then it becomes a problem. One incident is not going to jeopardise his career, right now hes probably viewed as Wind-Ups biggest money maker, they arent going to drop him.

I really doubt there gonna drop Stapp. I mean come on.

When he went on tv drunk, it was a big deal to SOME of his fans. If his fans aren't concerned, then he wont be. He'll just do it again, and again. I think if Stapp does read what we write, I don't think he'll drink as much, because he'll see that the fans care and don't wanna see him like that. If we don't care, then y should he? But like I said b4, I believe in 2nd chances. And Stapp deserves that much, from me anyway. But if I see he's drinking getting out of hand, then there wont be another chance.

Steve · 12-11-2005, 01:41 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Muad'Dib) Fans cared about Weiland and his personal life mainly cos it was life threatening. Stapp went on TV drunk, big deal! Everyone makes mistakes, what he does about it after is what matters. If he continues doing it then it becomes a problem. One incident is not going to jeopardise his career, right now hes probably viewed as Wind-Ups biggest money maker, they arent going to drop him.

See but that's the thing. This isn't the first time Stapp has made the "wrong choices" - it's just the bad choice that leads to negative press. Chicago concert, the bar fights, and now this. There's a pattern here...

TeriB19 · 12-11-2005, 01:47 PM

Exactly. This isn't his first public bad choice.

Robin101 · 12-11-2005, 01:50 PM

Being from the UK I'm not too familiar with the level of press Stapp receives.

Has the CC, 311 incident been prominent in the press?

titan9 · 12-12-2005, 09:57 AM

Not really all that much. I haven't heard it mentioned on too many TV entertainment shows. But I do know it has been talked about on the radio a good bit. Still, it hasn't received that much press. In Creed's heyday, though, it probably would have been talked about more. One thing I've found interesting, though: the press was quick to get out 311's side of the story.....yet I do not hear much of a mention of Stapp's side of it. I blame it on the bias toward Stapp.

uncertaindrumer · 12-12-2005, 12:35 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by titan9) Not really all that much. I haven't heard it mentioned on too many TV entertainment shows. But I do know it has been talked about on the radio a good bit. Still, it hasn't received that much press. In Creed's heyday, though, it probably would have been talked about more. One thing I've found interesting, though: the press was quick to get out 311's side of the story.....yet I do not hear much of a mention of Stapp's side of it. I blame it on the bias toward Stapp.

You are going to blame the MEDIA to defend Stapp? Geez.

Rocketqueen · 12-12-2005, 12:44 PM

HEY THATS OK BECAUSE YOU CAN BLAME THE MEDIA FOR EVERYTHING !!!! Your Not Going Hurt Theme they are use to it Nobody defends The Media ,

Ana4Stapp · 12-12-2005, 03:39 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by uncertaindrumer) You are going to blame the MEDIA to defend Stapp? Geez.

Honestly is getting very, very hard to defend Stapp...

12-10-2005, 08:07 PM	#33
Stappishot USER INFO » Status: Naked Toddler Posts: 292 Joined: Jan 2004 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by Chase) It all depends on the circumstances. I don't think him being silent for a couple days just ruined his career. Scott Weiland was a drug addict flake... but his career is still going strong. I would do what I would be advised to do. It would be different is Stapp was dropped by Wind Up... then you could say tha he really hit an obstacle. But the difference here is who didn't know that Scott Weiland was into drugs, that was know surprise, it wasn't shocking to know that at all. Because he didn't put a front on trying to say no I don't do this and no, I don't do that. And now here is Scott Stapp saying on mancow show how he doesn't drink and he'll give it to his girlfriend. But now we see that Scott Stapp does drink, and maybe a little to much. See with a lot of rock stars, u don't have to second guess, cause we see them do stupid things all the time, and they don't try to back it up saying this and that, we just know how they are already. But Scott covers his shit up alot and tries to be this man that he's not, and now he's paying the price, example of paying the price, a lot of his fans a not happy. Last edited by Stappishot : 12-10-2005 at 08:09 PM.

12-11-2005, 03:13 AM	#36
Muad'Dib USER INFO » Status: INK'ed Posts: 748 Joined: Jan 2003 Currently: Offline	Fans cared about Weiland and his personal life mainly cos it was life threatening. Stapp went on TV drunk, big deal! Everyone makes mistakes, what he does about it after is what matters. If he continues doing it then it becomes a problem. One incident is not going to jeopardise his career, right now hes probably viewed as Wind-Ups biggest money maker, they arent going to drop him. __________________ I was watching this monkey, this monkey watching me Then I needed a friend, or some company Coz some days I just can’t flick the switch Some days my skin just isn’t so thick

12-11-2005, 11:13 AM	#37
Robin101 USER INFO » Status: Naked Toddler Posts: 298 Joined: Sep 2005 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by Muad'Dib) Fans cared about Weiland and his personal life mainly cos it was life threatening. Stapp went on TV drunk, big deal! Everyone makes mistakes, what he does about it after is what matters. If he continues doing it then it becomes a problem. One incident is not going to jeopardise his career, right now hes probably viewed as Wind-Ups biggest money maker, they arent going to drop him. Ahh...finally - agreed! __________________ Do what you can, with what you have, where you are ~ Awaken The Giant Within And then They went on to say That the pearly gates Had some eloquent graffiti Like 'We'll meet again' And 'Fuck the man' And 'Tell my mother not to worry' ~ The Trapeze Swinger

12-11-2005, 12:08 PM	#38
Stappishot USER INFO » Status: Naked Toddler Posts: 292 Joined: Jan 2004 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by Muad'Dib) Fans cared about Weiland and his personal life mainly cos it was life threatening. Stapp went on TV drunk, big deal! Everyone makes mistakes, what he does about it after is what matters. If he continues doing it then it becomes a problem. One incident is not going to jeopardise his career, right now hes probably viewed as Wind-Ups biggest money maker, they arent going to drop him. I really doubt there gonna drop Stapp. I mean come on. When he went on tv drunk, it was a big deal to SOME of his fans. If his fans aren't concerned, then he wont be. He'll just do it again, and again. I think if Stapp does read what we write, I don't think he'll drink as much, because he'll see that the fans care and don't wanna see him like that. If we don't care, then y should he? But like I said b4, I believe in 2nd chances. And Stapp deserves that much, from me anyway. But if I see he's drinking getting out of hand, then there wont be another chance. Last edited by Stappishot : 12-11-2005 at 06:10 PM.

12-11-2005, 01:47 PM	#40
TeriB19 Forum Diplomat USER INFO » Status: Saving Grace Posts: 12,439 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	Exactly. This isn't his first public bad choice. __________________ MK: We're never gonna have the Super Bowl of Scott Stapp vs. Myles Kennedy in a sing-off - it's ridiculous. SP: Actually, we are setting that up. MT: It was in your contract when you signed up with us.

12-10-2005, 07:51 PM	#31
Chase USER INFO » Status: Wound Up Posts: 1,160 Joined: Oct 2004 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by Ana4Stapp) If you were an artist and someone said you were involved in a fight that you really werent waht would you do? would you keep quiet ? even if this silence would ruin your career? and thanks for the law's information... It all depends on the circumstances. I don't think him being silent for a couple days just ruined his career. Scott Weiland was a drug addict flake... but his career is still going strong. I would do what I would be advised to do. It would be different is Stapp was dropped by Wind Up... then you could say tha he really hit an obstacle.

12-11-2005, 01:40 AM	#34
Chase USER INFO » Status: Wound Up Posts: 1,160 Joined: Oct 2004 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by Stappishot) But the difference here is who didn't know that Scott Weiland was into drugs, that was know surprise, it wasn't shocking to know that at all. Because he didn't put a front on trying to say no I don't do this and no, I don't do that. And now here is Scott Stapp saying on mancow show how he doesn't drink and he'll give it to his girlfriend. But now we see that Scott Stapp does drink, and maybe a little to much. See with a lot of rock stars, u don't have to second guess, cause we see them do stupid things all the time, and they don't try to back it up saying this and that, we just know how they are already. But Scott covers his shit up alot and tries to be this man that he's not, and now he's paying the price, example of paying the price, a lot of his fans a not happy. I don't remember Stapp never saying he doesn't drink. I remember in a Rolling Stone article where Stapp relaxed and had a beer after a concert. Also... one of the times that Weiland was arrested... I remember him denying the charges. Sure, a lot of fans aren't happy. But there are also a lot of fans who don't really care about what he does in his personal life.

12-11-2005, 02:28 AM	#35
Stappishot USER INFO » Status: Naked Toddler Posts: 292 Joined: Jan 2004 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by Chase) I don't remember Stapp never saying he doesn't drink. I remember in a Rolling Stone article where Stapp relaxed and had a beer after a concert. Also... one of the times that Weiland was arrested... I remember him denying the charges. Sure, a lot of fans aren't happy. But there are also a lot of fans who don't really care about what he does in his personal life. Well u must of missed that interview, that was the one when he was in Chicago promoting his solo album. Ok so weiland denied a charge, but does it really surprise u if Weiland denied charges or does drugs? If Weiland came on the Casino show drunk, would it be a big deal? Yes, a lot of his fans don't care what he does in his personal life, but some of fans do. But i'll tell ya this, I wanna see how the rest of his solo career does, cause I believe in 2nd chances.

12-11-2005, 01:50 PM	#41
Robin101 USER INFO » Status: Naked Toddler Posts: 298 Joined: Sep 2005 Currently: Offline	Being from the UK I'm not too familiar with the level of press Stapp receives. Has the CC, 311 incident been prominent in the press? __________________ Do what you can, with what you have, where you are ~ Awaken The Giant Within And then They went on to say That the pearly gates Had some eloquent graffiti Like 'We'll meet again' And 'Fuck the man' And 'Tell my mother not to worry' ~ The Trapeze Swinger

12-12-2005, 09:57 AM	#42
titan9 USER INFO » Status: Bound and Tied Posts: 2,134 Joined: Dec 2004 Currently: Offline	Not really all that much. I haven't heard it mentioned on too many TV entertainment shows. But I do know it has been talked about on the radio a good bit. Still, it hasn't received that much press. In Creed's heyday, though, it probably would have been talked about more. One thing I've found interesting, though: the press was quick to get out 311's side of the story.....yet I do not hear much of a mention of Stapp's side of it. I blame it on the bias toward Stapp. __________________ Visit the 12 Stones Fan Community, 12stonesfans.com! Check out my friend's Music blog by here!

12-12-2005, 12:35 PM	#43
uncertaindrumer USER INFO » Status: Wound Up Posts: 1,255 Joined: Dec 2004 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by titan9) Not really all that much. I haven't heard it mentioned on too many TV entertainment shows. But I do know it has been talked about on the radio a good bit. Still, it hasn't received that much press. In Creed's heyday, though, it probably would have been talked about more. One thing I've found interesting, though: the press was quick to get out 311's side of the story.....yet I do not hear much of a mention of Stapp's side of it. I blame it on the bias toward Stapp. You are going to blame the MEDIA to defend Stapp? Geez. __________________ Titans baby, Titans.

12-12-2005, 12:44 PM	#44
Rocketqueen USER INFO » Status: Freedom Fighter Posts: 2,432 Joined: Oct 2005 Currently: Offline	HEY THATS OK BECAUSE YOU CAN BLAME THE MEDIA FOR EVERYTHING !!!! Your Not Going Hurt Theme they are use to it Nobody defends The Media , __________________ I Indeed Babtize you with water BUT ONE Mightier Than I Cometh The Latchet Of Whose Shoes I,am Not Worthy To Unloose He Shall Babtize You With The Holy Ghost And With FIREEEEEEEEEE John The Babtist You Never Count Your Money When YOUR Sittin At The Table There Will Be Time Enough To Count,em When The Dealings Done

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