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02-03-2004, 12:43 PM | #1 |
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How Submersed got used by Wind-Up
Look what I've found on an Sub fansite. Please read it, it's pretty important. This guy is a die-hard fan. Look what he has to say:
What I was upset about was that they changed guitarist. Here's the official guitarist: Eric Friedman bio from Submersed.com: Did Wind-Up used Submersed? What do you think, write it down!
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I don't know. Are any of the band members complaining? An interesting perspective, nonetheless.
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Ask the band members if they complain, I have no idea!
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Hmmm. Intersting. I wonder what Wind-Up's point of view is. If it is like that guy said it was, could they be doing that to Creed to try to get something new?
I like Faktion, too. The're pretty cool. Didn't know they were affiliated with Creed. H-D
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The former lead guitar quit. When Mark heard they had an empty spot, he suggested Eric. That's not being used. So far they don't have a official drummer as well. That's why Flip recorded the tracks.
I know it should be done by now. THey recorded it in Jan 03. How can they still be post-producing it? One thing I know is Evanecence's album was too (post) mixed, too many sound effects... I hope it doesn't happen with Subbie. I think not, considering the tracks I heard. And of course their debut album will have marketable songs. We won't see a band rising like Creed (MOP) in any near future. But I think they're (that's my guess!) pushing SUbbie back coz they want them to tour with Tremonti's new band.
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Ah, so the truth comes out!
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Doesn't matter to me as long as it sounds good and they can reproduce it live. Every Windup band I've heard is great on Cd and in concert. I'm sure they won't disappoint or overdue it.
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I don't understand this kids opinion, and I don't understand how you can say Submersed got used by Wind-up. If you truly have the feelings that the author of that message has, you should be blaming the band for signing with Wind-up in the first place. When a band signs with a label, the label is supposed to take their material and market it. Submersed had to know what Wind-up's plans were for their album when the agreed to join the label - it had to be in writing. It's no one's fault buy Submersed's if they do not agree with what Wind-up is doing.
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The way I see it. First off, if the guys from Submersed (regardless of the way it's spelled) could have easily gotten out of any situation they didn't want to persue in. Second, if one of the easily top selling rock band's offers to help out the band than they know what they're doing, and only a fool would argue. If you don't like it, then go elsewhere, and it seems that Submersed definately didn't go anywhere and it sounds like it's gonna be awesome!!!
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I don't like wind-up...that's all.
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I know Flip played drumms, but if you check at [http://www.submersed.com]Sub.com[/url] it says that they have an official drummer, and he's not named Scott Phillips.
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Problem is they didn't have that new drummer when the album was being made. Thus, Tremonti said, "Hey, I know of a guy who plays drums." That new drummer guy tours with Submersed now, but during the recording sessions Flip did the work. |
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cool conspiracy theroy but Steve and others are right on the money! I don't think Wind-Up said hey we can turn them into a Creed side-project and we can guarentee this many sales. They needed a lead guitar so Mark suggest Eric, they need a drummer so Flip fills in for a short time, similary to Dave Grohl with Queens of the Stone Age. SubmerseD still has control whether or not they have a record deal.
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I agree, that's what I meant by Mark saying he could get Flip to play drums. They just needed a drummer at that time and a guitarist in Eric. Wind-Up hasn't done anything except probably secure a successful future for that band like they have done with Creed, Evanescene, etc. Just to name a few of the biggest sellers. |
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and without Creed they would in reality just be another of Wind-Ups acts. With Creed's help they have a ready made audience us!
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