Mayfield Four - Page 2

Dogstar · 11-20-2005, 11:13 PM

I pop that CD into the car player a lot. It's a great driving song.

RMadd · 11-21-2005, 02:19 AM

hmmm... looks like we have a general consensus here that Mars Hotel pretty much kicks ass.

SummerGirl · 11-30-2005, 09:20 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by RMadd) hmmm... looks like we have a general consensus here that Mars Hotel pretty much kicks ass.

Agreed!!! "Mars Hotel" is my favorite MF4 song EVER!!! I love it!!!

facelessmike · 11-30-2005, 07:09 PM

Ive also really gotten into MF4...theyre really good. Cant believe I never heard of them before Myles joined AB. I listen to SS just as much as ODR or TGD...Hopefully Myles will have some more input on the next AB record and collaborate with Tremo to create some really awesome material!

Ana4Stapp · 11-30-2005, 07:24 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by facelessmike) Ive also really gotten into MF4...theyre really good. Cant believe I never heard of them before Myles joined AB. I listen to SS just as much as ODR or TGD...Hopefully Myles will have some more input on the next AB record and collaborate with Tremo to create some really awesome material!

Did I write this post? lol

Exactly the same thing ...I think about it...
Btw, Im listening to 'Dont walk away' and boy... this is awesome!

Quote: hmmm... looks like we have a general consensus here that Mars Hotel pretty much kicks ass.

Yeah, I like this song ...but my favorite is WHITE FLAG!

scrit · 11-30-2005, 07:59 PM

Mf4 is probably my favorite band, every song is great. Both cds are amazing even though they sound VERY different. My favorite song by them is probably believe, but it could be carry on. I love the way he uses a delicate almost whisper in those songs, then builds to something much louder.

RMadd · 12-01-2005, 02:35 PM

Myles' "scream" at the end of Summergirl is chilling. he reaches way up into the clouds to hit a high one, then, once you think he's about to break, he goes even higher. i remember reading somewhere (not sure if it was on here, or some writer's review of AB) that Myles is merely a rip-off of Cornell. first off, Cornell is terribly difficult to merely rip off. you gotta have pipes to hit the notes he does, and hold them for so long. and, I must say, Myles is certainly no hack. not only does he get up there on various songs in M4 and AB, but he also hit the high notes live. also, covering songs by a band like Zeppelin, and trying to mimic Robert Plant's voice, that's pretty exceptional. i'm sure that, back in the day, there were prolly some people who compared Cornell's voice to Plant in Zep's heyday.

evyllsummer · 12-02-2005, 02:48 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by RMadd) Myles' "scream" at the end of Summergirl is chilling. he reaches way up into the clouds to hit a high one, then, once you think he's about to break, he goes even higher. i remember reading somewhere (not sure if it was on here, or some writer's review of AB) that Myles is merely a rip-off of Cornell. first off, Cornell is terribly difficult to merely rip off. you gotta have pipes to hit the notes he does, and hold them for so long. and, I must say, Myles is certainly no hack. not only does he get up there on various songs in M4 and AB, but he also hit the high notes live. also, covering songs by a band like Zeppelin, and trying to mimic Robert Plant's voice, that's pretty exceptional. i'm sure that, back in the day, there were prolly some people who compared Cornell's voice to Plant in Zep's heyday.

actually, when Soundgarden first broke onto the scene in the late 80s, there was one name to which Cornell was consistantly being compared: Ronnie James Dio. The Cornell comparisons that consistantly dog Myles, that's how the Dio comparisons followed Cornell for years. (Dio, by the way, is a fan of Cornell). If you don't think that Cornell sounds a bit like Dio, listen to Rainbow's "Man On The Silver Mountain", then listen to Soundgarden's "Outshined".

As for Myles, he was heavily influenced by Plant, Buckley, and the recently deceased Chris Whitley...contrary to some opinion, Cornell was in NO WAY any influence on Myles...however, both Myles AND Cornell has worked with vocal coach Ron Anderson...but Myles holds the note in "Summergirl" for twenty seconds, and that's longer than any of the Cornell high notes, including "Call Me A Dog", which is about 14 seconds..."Save Me", also twenty seconds...and Myles certainly has more control over his higher register than Cornell does these days...now, Cornell in 1991, I'm not too sure...

Another interesting note, though, on Cornell, he is actually a BARITONE. He has trained himself to go into the higher register with the tenors (along with other baritones like Geoff Tate and David Coverdale), but he's a natural baritone...Myles is definitely a tenor, but, over the last few years, has been putting effort into developing his lower register, which he exhibits on "Broken Wings", "Burn It Down", and "Save Me"...

RMadd · 12-02-2005, 03:23 PM

<~~ dayamn! that's what i call useful information!
i certainly agree that, today, Cornell is hardly what he used to be. i was about to put that (or something to the effect of, right now, Myles is better), but i didn't want anyone driving by my house and leaving flaming bags of dog poo on my porch.

Dogstar · 12-02-2005, 03:28 PM

Cornell in 91 was insane. The notes he hit routinely were nuts. Beyond the Wheel, Birth Ritual, just to name a few.

evyllsummer · 12-02-2005, 04:03 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dogstar) Cornell in 91 was insane. The notes he hit routinely were nuts. Beyond the Wheel, Birth Ritual, just to name a few.

yup...the first time I heard Cornell was in 1989, my freshman year in college...someone loaned me "Louder Than Love", and my first reaction was that I thought that, on "Hands All Over", he sounded like old school Bono...but, when I heard the intro to "Loud Love", I was hooked...and, for the record, Audioslave does a pretty good live cover of "Loud Love"...Cornell still has the range for that song, but he doesn't have the control or sustain that he had back in the day...still, though, Cornell is one of my favorites ever and always will be...and, yeah, 1991 was Cornell at his strongest and most versatile...both TOTD and Badmotorfinger were recorded that year...

Quote: certainly agree that, today, Cornell is hardly what he used to be.

Yeah, he just doesn't have the control or sustain that he had back in the day...if you hear the Soundgarden song "Loud Love", then listen to Audioslave's cover, you can hear a BIG difference...but I still love Cornell...current damaged Cornell is STILL better than 90% of what's on the radio right now...and, in comparison to Myles, Cornell couldn't pull off FTR or SM these days...now, in 1991, he may have been able to...

Dogstar · 12-02-2005, 06:39 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by evyllsummer) yup...the first time I heard Cornell was in 1989, my freshman year in college...someone loaned me "Louder Than Love", and my first reaction was that I thought that, on "Hands All Over", he sounded like old school Bono...but, when I heard the intro to "Loud Love", I was hooked...and, for the record, Audioslave does a pretty good live cover of "Loud Love"...Cornell still has the range for that song, but he doesn't have the control or sustain that he had back in the day...still, though, Cornell is one of my favorites ever and always will be...and, yeah, 1991 was Cornell at his strongest and most versatile...both TOTD and Badmotorfinger were recorded that year...

Yup...Louder Than Love sold me as well. Even a Cornell not at the '91 level is a bazillion times better than some of the singers out there today.

titan9 · 12-02-2005, 07:08 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dogstar) Yup...Louder Than Love sold me as well. Even a Cornell not at the '91 level is a bazillion times better than some of the singers out there today.

Agreed. I'll listen to the Cornell of today above Chad Kroeger, Brad Arnold or *insert "rock" vocalist here*. Cornell is definitely one of my top 5 favorite vocalists, probably only second to Myles.

Bridge of Clay · 12-02-2005, 07:28 PM

man... I'm priviledged for reading Chris' posts! lol Seriously... you should have a music column up somewhere!

and yeah, me definately likes Myles is working on his lower register. I don't know much of Cornell though, except for Audioslave. I never got into the early 90's music. Actually I can't seem to like it...

Once I used to care about Aerosmith, Guns and Nirvana, but I admit it was by pressure of media. I only started caring for music after I heard Higher on the radio. So pretty much, my musical history begins there.

And I know, shame on me... I have to dedicate sometime to get to know the old stuff.

And I'm working on that, my SRV live @ Montreaux DVD came in today!!!

Dogstar · 12-02-2005, 08:29 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Bridge of Clay)
Once I used to care about Aerosmith, Guns and Nirvana, but I admit it was by pressure of media. I only started caring for music after I heard Higher on the radio. So pretty much, my musical history begins there.

And I know, shame on me... I have to dedicate sometime to get to know the old stuff.

You're young, you still have time

Quote: And I'm working on that, my SRV live @ Montreaux DVD came in today!!!

NICE!

11-20-2005, 11:13 PM	#16
Dogstar Forum Diplomat USER INFO » Status: Young Grown Old Posts: 21,345 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	I pop that CD into the car player a lot. It's a great driving song. __________________ Silly monkeys give them thumbs they make a club and beat their brother down. How they survive so misguided is a mystery.

11-21-2005, 02:19 AM	#17
RMadd USER INFO » Status: Found The Real Posts: 10,546 Joined: Aug 2003 Currently: Offline	hmmm... looks like we have a general consensus here that Mars Hotel pretty much kicks ass. __________________

11-30-2005, 07:59 PM	#21
scrit USER INFO » Status: Faceless Fan Posts: 459 Joined: Oct 2004 Currently: Offline	Mf4 is probably my favorite band, every song is great. Both cds are amazing even though they sound VERY different. My favorite song by them is probably believe, but it could be carry on. I love the way he uses a delicate almost whisper in those songs, then builds to something much louder. __________________ Every artist is a cannibal, every poet is a thief All kill their inspiration and sing about their grief -U2

12-01-2005, 02:35 PM	#22
RMadd USER INFO » Status: Found The Real Posts: 10,546 Joined: Aug 2003 Currently: Offline	Myles' "scream" at the end of Summergirl is chilling. he reaches way up into the clouds to hit a high one, then, once you think he's about to break, he goes even higher. i remember reading somewhere (not sure if it was on here, or some writer's review of AB) that Myles is merely a rip-off of Cornell. first off, Cornell is terribly difficult to merely rip off. you gotta have pipes to hit the notes he does, and hold them for so long. and, I must say, Myles is certainly no hack. not only does he get up there on various songs in M4 and AB, but he also hit the high notes live. also, covering songs by a band like Zeppelin, and trying to mimic Robert Plant's voice, that's pretty exceptional. i'm sure that, back in the day, there were prolly some people who compared Cornell's voice to Plant in Zep's heyday. __________________

12-02-2005, 02:48 PM	#23
evyllsummer USER INFO » Status: A Melody Posts: 442 Joined: Sep 2004 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by RMadd) Myles' "scream" at the end of Summergirl is chilling. he reaches way up into the clouds to hit a high one, then, once you think he's about to break, he goes even higher. i remember reading somewhere (not sure if it was on here, or some writer's review of AB) that Myles is merely a rip-off of Cornell. first off, Cornell is terribly difficult to merely rip off. you gotta have pipes to hit the notes he does, and hold them for so long. and, I must say, Myles is certainly no hack. not only does he get up there on various songs in M4 and AB, but he also hit the high notes live. also, covering songs by a band like Zeppelin, and trying to mimic Robert Plant's voice, that's pretty exceptional. i'm sure that, back in the day, there were prolly some people who compared Cornell's voice to Plant in Zep's heyday. actually, when Soundgarden first broke onto the scene in the late 80s, there was one name to which Cornell was consistantly being compared: Ronnie James Dio. The Cornell comparisons that consistantly dog Myles, that's how the Dio comparisons followed Cornell for years. (Dio, by the way, is a fan of Cornell). If you don't think that Cornell sounds a bit like Dio, listen to Rainbow's "Man On The Silver Mountain", then listen to Soundgarden's "Outshined". As for Myles, he was heavily influenced by Plant, Buckley, and the recently deceased Chris Whitley...contrary to some opinion, Cornell was in NO WAY any influence on Myles...however, both Myles AND Cornell has worked with vocal coach Ron Anderson...but Myles holds the note in "Summergirl" for twenty seconds, and that's longer than any of the Cornell high notes, including "Call Me A Dog", which is about 14 seconds..."Save Me", also twenty seconds...and Myles certainly has more control over his higher register than Cornell does these days...now, Cornell in 1991, I'm not too sure... Another interesting note, though, on Cornell, he is actually a BARITONE. He has trained himself to go into the higher register with the tenors (along with other baritones like Geoff Tate and David Coverdale), but he's a natural baritone...Myles is definitely a tenor, but, over the last few years, has been putting effort into developing his lower register, which he exhibits on "Broken Wings", "Burn It Down", and "Save Me"... Last edited by evyllsummer : 12-02-2005 at 04:06 PM. Reason: spelling error

11-30-2005, 09:20 AM	#18
SummerGirl USER INFO » Status: Misconception Posts: 114 Joined: Nov 2005 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by RMadd) hmmm... looks like we have a general consensus here that Mars Hotel pretty much kicks ass. Agreed!!! "Mars Hotel" is my favorite MF4 song EVER!!! I love it!!!

12-02-2005, 03:23 PM	#24
RMadd USER INFO » Status: Found The Real Posts: 10,546 Joined: Aug 2003 Currently: Offline	<~~ dayamn! that's what i call useful information! i certainly agree that, today, Cornell is hardly what he used to be. i was about to put that (or something to the effect of, right now, Myles is better), but i didn't want anyone driving by my house and leaving flaming bags of dog poo on my porch. __________________

12-02-2005, 03:28 PM	#25
Dogstar Forum Diplomat USER INFO » Status: Young Grown Old Posts: 21,345 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	Cornell in 91 was insane. The notes he hit routinely were nuts. Beyond the Wheel, Birth Ritual, just to name a few. __________________ Silly monkeys give them thumbs they make a club and beat their brother down. How they survive so misguided is a mystery.

12-02-2005, 04:03 PM	#26
evyllsummer USER INFO » Status: A Melody Posts: 442 Joined: Sep 2004 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by Dogstar) Cornell in 91 was insane. The notes he hit routinely were nuts. Beyond the Wheel, Birth Ritual, just to name a few. yup...the first time I heard Cornell was in 1989, my freshman year in college...someone loaned me "Louder Than Love", and my first reaction was that I thought that, on "Hands All Over", he sounded like old school Bono...but, when I heard the intro to "Loud Love", I was hooked...and, for the record, Audioslave does a pretty good live cover of "Loud Love"...Cornell still has the range for that song, but he doesn't have the control or sustain that he had back in the day...still, though, Cornell is one of my favorites ever and always will be...and, yeah, 1991 was Cornell at his strongest and most versatile...both TOTD and Badmotorfinger were recorded that year... Quote: certainly agree that, today, Cornell is hardly what he used to be. Yeah, he just doesn't have the control or sustain that he had back in the day...if you hear the Soundgarden song "Loud Love", then listen to Audioslave's cover, you can hear a BIG difference...but I still love Cornell...current damaged Cornell is STILL better than 90% of what's on the radio right now...and, in comparison to Myles, Cornell couldn't pull off FTR or SM these days...now, in 1991, he may have been able to...

12-02-2005, 06:39 PM	#27
Dogstar Forum Diplomat USER INFO » Status: Young Grown Old Posts: 21,345 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by evyllsummer) yup...the first time I heard Cornell was in 1989, my freshman year in college...someone loaned me "Louder Than Love", and my first reaction was that I thought that, on "Hands All Over", he sounded like old school Bono...but, when I heard the intro to "Loud Love", I was hooked...and, for the record, Audioslave does a pretty good live cover of "Loud Love"...Cornell still has the range for that song, but he doesn't have the control or sustain that he had back in the day...still, though, Cornell is one of my favorites ever and always will be...and, yeah, 1991 was Cornell at his strongest and most versatile...both TOTD and Badmotorfinger were recorded that year... Yup...Louder Than Love sold me as well. Even a Cornell not at the '91 level is a bazillion times better than some of the singers out there today. __________________ Silly monkeys give them thumbs they make a club and beat their brother down. How they survive so misguided is a mystery.

12-02-2005, 07:08 PM	#28
titan9 USER INFO » Status: Bound and Tied Posts: 2,134 Joined: Dec 2004 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by Dogstar) Yup...Louder Than Love sold me as well. Even a Cornell not at the '91 level is a bazillion times better than some of the singers out there today. Agreed. I'll listen to the Cornell of today above Chad Kroeger, Brad Arnold or insert "rock" vocalist here. Cornell is definitely one of my top 5 favorite vocalists, probably only second to Myles. __________________ Visit the 12 Stones Fan Community, 12stonesfans.com! Check out my friend's Music blog by here!

12-02-2005, 07:28 PM	#29
Bridge of Clay USER INFO » Status: Tree of Wisdom Posts: 8,025 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	man... I'm priviledged for reading Chris' posts! lol Seriously... you should have a music column up somewhere! and yeah, me definately likes Myles is working on his lower register. I don't know much of Cornell though, except for Audioslave. I never got into the early 90's music. Actually I can't seem to like it... Once I used to care about Aerosmith, Guns and Nirvana, but I admit it was by pressure of media. I only started caring for music after I heard Higher on the radio. So pretty much, my musical history begins there. And I know, shame on me... I have to dedicate sometime to get to know the old stuff. And I'm working on that, my SRV live @ Montreaux DVD came in today!!! __________________ .:: "If people don't like guitar solos... then they're frikkin' stupid!" - Mark Tremonti ::.

12-02-2005, 08:29 PM	#30
Dogstar Forum Diplomat USER INFO » Status: Young Grown Old Posts: 21,345 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by Bridge of Clay) Once I used to care about Aerosmith, Guns and Nirvana, but I admit it was by pressure of media. I only started caring for music after I heard Higher on the radio. So pretty much, my musical history begins there. And I know, shame on me... I have to dedicate sometime to get to know the old stuff. You're young, you still have time Quote: And I'm working on that, my SRV live @ Montreaux DVD came in today!!! NICE! __________________ Silly monkeys give them thumbs they make a club and beat their brother down. How they survive so misguided is a mystery.

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