spin....swin i thought this was a no-spin zone lol!
my view of this is that the title of the thread seems to want to stir the pot a little. however "the stapp mammas" seem to be wearing rose-coloured glasses and refuse to consider that perhaps stapp is not the man they thought he was. again this is only my view of the situation so please don't jump down my throat.
the man is very talented and has such a big personality, stage presence and is a fantastic lyrcrist and frontman. however its hard to find people in the business to say a good word about the man which i think saids something. so in conclusion i'm sure both parties have committed wrongs and stapp was a MASSIVE reason why creed was so successful. saying that my opinion of him personally is certainly what it was 12 months ago which is too bad.