first of all welcome username
in my opion i really dont think who said what and where and why is relevent these guys made just a wonderfull music together and in my research thats all the fans care about everybody just got have to lay aside the personal conflicts and get along like sugar and spice and everything nice the only way is one will his licks AB tunes now i would,nt say lame now but those licks where at their peak with orginal fourmula i dont think nobody will be disaponting as well as creed and AB fans