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eusebioCBR · 08-20-2009, 07:05 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by CollectiveSoul) Exactly! Why would you be scared of SOCIALISM and GOVERNMENT TAKEOVERS when the Post Office isn't over-running any of the private entities currently in place.

The government can't successfuly run the post office, cash for clunkers or social security.

You don't know socialism when you see it, because there's nothing to see there.

I see government intrusion on the private sector.

Who wants to run health care?

Obama has said he wants a "single payer system"

Who said that?

Obama

Who is running health care?

At the moment capitalism for the most part. If the people want government medicine where is the public outrage? There were plenty more people protesting the Iraq war.

It's called an option,

Depending on the bill becoming law after a period of time ( 5 years for example) if you are dropped from your health plan or change jobs and leave your plan you are not free to purchase private insurance anymore. You will then be required to enroll in the government plan or face an anual fine of about $2500 dollars. Once enrolled you will have lost sovereignty over your own body as the government health care plan will have the final say on what treatment you do or do not get.

every other developed country has a cheaper government plan.

What percentage of Americans flee the US for superior health care abroad?

You sound very uninformed like you've been watching Glenn Beck.

You sound well programed like you've been listening to Barack Obama, Robert Gibbs, Rom Emanuel, Nancy Peloci ........... without question.

The White House press secratery Robert Gibbs today (August 20) unable to answer yet another question about one of the proposed bills that if Obama had his way would have been voted on and passed already.

GIBBS: I've watched newscasts just this week where people have said illegal immigrants are going to get health care as a result of this bill, despite the fact that the president said six weeks ago that wasn't true and said 26 minutes ago that that wasn't true. We'll see if those rumors can finally be put to bed based on the truth.

PLANTE: Well, since you bring that up wouldn't the American born children for illegal immigrants be eligible for health care?

GIBBS: I don't know what the provisions are.

PLANTE: Well, they're American citizens.

GIBBS: I'd have to look at that aspect of the bill.

08-20-2009, 07:05 PM	#5
eusebioCBR USER INFO » Status: Shackled Hero Posts: 2,913 Joined: Oct 2005 Currently: Offline	Re: The Truth about Health Care Reform. Quote: (Originally Posted by CollectiveSoul) Exactly! Why would you be scared of SOCIALISM and GOVERNMENT TAKEOVERS when the Post Office isn't over-running any of the private entities currently in place. The government can't successfuly run the post office, cash for clunkers or social security. You don't know socialism when you see it, because there's nothing to see there. I see government intrusion on the private sector. Who wants to run health care? Obama has said he wants a "single payer system" Who said that? Obama Who is running health care? At the moment capitalism for the most part. If the people want government medicine where is the public outrage? There were plenty more people protesting the Iraq war. It's called an option, Depending on the bill becoming law after a period of time ( 5 years for example) if you are dropped from your health plan or change jobs and leave your plan you are not free to purchase private insurance anymore. You will then be required to enroll in the government plan or face an anual fine of about $2500 dollars. Once enrolled you will have lost sovereignty over your own body as the government health care plan will have the final say on what treatment you do or do not get. every other developed country has a cheaper government plan. What percentage of Americans flee the US for superior health care abroad? You sound very uninformed like you've been watching Glenn Beck. You sound well programed like you've been listening to Barack Obama, Robert Gibbs, Rom Emanuel, Nancy Peloci ........... without question. The White House press secratery Robert Gibbs today (August 20) unable to answer yet another question about one of the proposed bills that if Obama had his way would have been voted on and passed already. GIBBS: I've watched newscasts just this week where people have said illegal immigrants are going to get health care as a result of this bill, despite the fact that the president said six weeks ago that wasn't true and said 26 minutes ago that that wasn't true. We'll see if those rumors can finally be put to bed based on the truth. PLANTE: Well, since you bring that up wouldn't the American born children for illegal immigrants be eligible for health care? GIBBS: I don't know what the provisions are. PLANTE: Well, they're American citizens. GIBBS: I'd have to look at that aspect of the bill. __________________ When I held that gun in my hand, I felt a surge of power ....like God must feel when he's holding a gun. -Homer Simpson 24