[titan9]

I don't think anyone is not considering the previous bar fight, the Chicago incident etc. when discussing this new thing. All I'm saying(and others) is that maybe 311 hasn't been completely truthful, maybe Stapp isn't as in the wrong as some are saying. I'm not saying that he should continue to go bars, continue to get drunk and make a fool of himself. All I'm saying is that I don't believe 311 has told the real truth, or else the security guy would have agreed with their story. I'd believe that guy before I believed one of the people involved in the fight, as like Chase pointed out, those involved will always say "he started it" when that may not always be the case. The security guy is unbiased; 311 might be biased and the same can be said for Stapp if/when he tells his side of the story.