Brand new song - Surround Me!
 

Lots and lots of Scott Stapp news! Head over to www.PassionBreedsFollowers.com and make sure to download the bootleg of the new song Surround Me!!

While you're there, make sure to download the Q101's Mancow's Morning Madhouse, which includes an interview with Scott. (The DJ is a total jerk this time too, he's a total AB hater and gives Scott way too much credit!!! He calls AB side-kicks who just sucks. Mark was at least 50% of that band!)
Also check out his brand new promo shot, some other new pics and a new Nescar video!

Enjoy!

this will be his year! ready for the ride!

Yeah, since AB's looong tour will be over in a few months, then they'll head, pretty much, straight into the studio to record some new material they've already written and release a new album at the end of next summer... Yeah, now is Scott's time to shine.

How ironic that a DJ in Chicago is actually positive about Scott, and hates Alter Bridge. I thought that the DJ would be quite negative about Scott, considering the infamous concert there back in '02. It's a shame that the DJ had to put AB down like that.

Out of curiousity, Lith, where exactly is that DL for the new song? I'm not presently a member of the forums(I was, but my account got deleted due to inactivity), so I haven't looked there.

Thanks for posting all of this!

I can't believe Scott Stapp!! Last summer he said that was still talking to AB and that it was for sure that they were getting back together as Creed again. Now he says that he has only spoken to AB through lawyer and that even if Mark and the guys begged he wouldn't forgive 'em for what they've done! Brian was right when he said Scott is nothing but a "Pathological fucking lair".

Then he said that he was the only one with a kid... Hello, what about Flip and his daughter Cadance?

ALTER BRIDGE 4 LIFE!!!

Hmm, kinda contradicts what he just said a week ago in that Columbus interview. Didn't he say that he has forgiven them?

Yeah, I just don't care anymore... I think Scott is handleing these interviews so very, very bad that I just start to dislike him again... A LOT!!!!

I don't, either. He handled the interviews last year much better. Like I've said before, though, I try not to let it interfere in whether I like his music or not. I'm still a fan of the work he has done as a musician, despite some of the idiotic things he may say/do.

Well to me, what he says is a part of him and I can't support someone I hate. Now, I try not to start to hate Stapp, but well... The guy's a jerk, and he prooves it!

See, I've said this a ton, but I try to separate the actual music from the person. I'll worship the music, but I sure as heck won't worship the person, because I don't know what they are truly like. I can't base my opinions about an artist based on what he/she says in an interview. An artist could come off(in an interview) as an extremely nice person, yet in all actuality, be a complete jerk, or vice versa. Unless I personally know the artist, I'm not going to let what he/she says/does factor into whether I like said artist or not. That's just me, though.

One thing I know is that Alter Bridge are too into it to just be acting. I read a message on ABB.net from Michael where he called out to get a girl named Julia, something. She had won a competition on The Zone 9.11, Chicago. The price was to visit Mark's house and watch the guys preform an intimate acoustic set for her. However the competition was somehow called off, although Julia had already won.

But Michael did post this message 'cause he was pretty sure Julia was a big fan who problably were on ABB.net. So they tried to find her, so she could get her price anyway Michael ended his message with: "Alter Bridge never lets a fan down".

You gotta love it to do something like that!

Awful song. I really think he should have called his album "Creed-album no 4" its a copy of Creed songs.

Yeah, I always thought Stapp would never make it without Mark... Turnes out he can... If he copies everything Mark has ever done for Creed.

Give me a break... Alter Bridge plays Creed-like tunes also. "Down To My Last," "Broken Wings," "Shed My Skin," and "Open Your Eyes." They have Creed written all over it.

It's a good song, better than the Great Divide. At least The Great Divide's music video is pretty good though :) .

It has post grunge alternative, or modern rock, or whatever you want to call it, written all over it. Creed didn't start it.

But granted, AB is not very unique. Their difference is in FTR Metalingus and ODR. Plus Myles' ridiculous vocals.

Anyway Stapp is everything I thought he was.

And I don't know... I can't support a total jerk by buying his music, etc. But that is just me.

Hmm, I just listened to the song(finally found out it was actually on the radio station's web site) and the sound quality is extremely poor, so I think it is difficult to judge the song as a whole. I liked the lyrics, and I thought it was good to hear Stapp go a bit higher with his vocals toward the end of the song. Overall, his vocals sounded strong, which is very promising. Hopefully they hold up once he starts touring. However, I'm going to wait until I get a hold of an album quality version of the song before I actually judge it. But initially, I think it is good, a good bit better than the Great Divide.

are you kidding me?

He sounds horrible... the tone is still there, but range and control are really bad. I'm not considering it worth of critic coz I've been told he was sick that day.

Same here, even though his voice is terrible and the sound quality is extremely poor. But backing to the song...its sounds good and lyrics are superior to GD...but its not a difficult thing ...

broken wings doesn't sound like creed, but i'll give you the other 3....i don't think the next album is going to be like creed very much. with myles collaborating it'll be sweet!

[quote=Bridge of Clay]are you kidding me?

He sounds horrible... the tone is still there, but range and control are really bad. I'm not considering it worth of critic coz I've been told he was sick that day.[/QUO
you are right because the st louis show sounded great his voice the day wasn't good at all

It's early, but I'll attempt to reply to this. When I said that his vocals sounded strong, I was accounting for the incredibly poor sound quality and the fact that he was supposedly sick that day. I didn't think he had "no control or range", but of course that is your opinion, and I'm not going to change mine, lol.

I think people here are overreacting way too quickly to Stapp's new stuff, particularly those who do not like Stapp. Everything that is coming out so far(and that is only TWO songs[one is not even album quality] and a video), they are quick to come in here and say how much it sucks. They've got their opinion, and a lot of people have been respectful of it, yet they themselves have not been that respectful towards those Stapp fans who do enjoy it. It seems like those Stapp fans who dislike AB have been respectful, for the most part, and have not posted their disdain for AB in the AB forum(they have done so here, though), whereas I'm seeing quite a few anti-Stapp people in here, posting their disdain for him. Granted, no one is perfect on either side, but if we want to have less arguments/fights around here, we need to think hard before we make a post. Many times I have seen something on here that infuriates me, yet I have restrained myself a lot and not posted a heated message in response. Other members have done the same as I have, I am sure.

I guess I'm just tired of the fights, the ridiculing and whatnot. I'd like to see less negativeness, less fights around here.

/End rant

He was sick cause the nite before he was drinking till late. I am not inventing this...the dj's said so in the interview. Yeah sick, i think thats no way to look after his voice if he is thinking in starting touring.

Listen to it more than once and you'll notice how many times his voice cracks... That was my first impression, but when I listened to it more times, I noticed the failures.



in what world? The only minority here is the side who still cares for both side. The Stapp field is ready to diss AB (Another Band, Alter Boys, etc) anytime. And the AB fans are ready to get back at them.

Let's admit... Stapp isn't helping his image much after the latest interviews.

And seriously, I still like Stapp but his recent stories are contradicted by himself... one day Mark is an asshole and on the other he prays for him, back to hating him, back to forgiving him... :wtf:

I live for the fights, ridiculous and whatnot... lol

Anyway, Titan are you sick? I think you just claimed Stapp crazy's have been respectful of AB...

Umm, on WHAT planet do you live?

just because his voice was not perfect live doesn't mean it wont be perfect on the albulm. Ever heard is this the end acoustic he gets terribly off key at one point yet the albulm version is one of their strongest songs

i like both stapp and AleterBridge so I guess im the minority

Ya'll misinterpretted what I said. I guess that's what I get for posting a message around 7:30-8ish, before I've had breakfast or any kind of thing to wake me up. :laugh: What I meant was that, for the most part, Stapp fans have not stormed into the AB forum(save for a few extremists) and brought their negativeness to that forum. Whereas those who clearly do not like Stapp(I'm not going to name names, because I do not intend to start a fight) come over to the Stapp forum and post their negativeness and criticism on here. See what I'm saying? I'm not denying that anti-AB fans have posted in this forum, because they have, but I'm saying that some of them have decided not to bring that negativeness to the AB forum itself. It's different for the Stapp forum, as there are some bonafied Stapp haters who come in here and spew nothing but negativity concerning Stapp. I'm all for constructive criticism when it comes to an artist or band, but I hate it when bonafied haters come into that artist's forum and are only there to bash the artist and thus start fights with those who happen to like the artist. I'm talking about the haters who come into this forum and say "blah blah blah, Stapp sucks, I can't believe you actually like his new video, because it sucks, what are you smoking thinking that it is good?" This is where all of the fights happen, this is what causes it, on BOTH sides.

Example: I hate Usher. However, I do not go into an Usher forum and bash the guy, because I know exactly what'll happen: I'll get into a fight with someone who really likes his music, and nothing good will come out of it. You have the freedom to go into any forum you like, regardless of if you like the artist or not. But if you want to avoid a fight, think before you make a post that does nothing but bash the artist in that artist's forum. THAT was my point, and I guess I did not type it clearly.

As for listening to the song again, quite honestly, I have not had the time to carefully listen to it again and critique his voice. I based my opinion off of a first-time listen, and maybe if I listen to it again, maybe my opinion will change, but for now, my opinion stands.

I'd like to add to all of this that I am an equal fan of both, and I'll defend both when I see fit. If anti-AB fans were coming into the AB forum and bashing the band a lot, I'd defend the heck out of AB as well.

Also, I am not defending what Stapp has said in the interviews. I've even admitted in other threads(maybe it was even earlier in this one) that what he he has said in, say, the Columbus interview contradicts what he later said in the Cleveland interview. I am simply defending the MUSIC, not the guy himself.

Titan, i know what you are trying to say but this is completly different. Stapp and AB were together in a band. Is not like we, AB fans, cant ignore all the lying and bullshit Stapp says about Tremo, Flip and Brian and about their no existing frienship and stuff in Creed. And vicerversa with Stappy fans.
I really care about Stappy says, not cause i admre him or i am a fans, cause what he says is just lie after lie.

By no means am I saying that you should not be upset about what he is saying regarding Tremo, Flip and Brian or anything else Creed related. I myself am angry, and I'm an equal fan of both. All I am saying is that those who hate Stapp, to avoid fights, would be best served(all of this being my opinion) to either hold the hate in, or voice it in the AB forum where it would probably be better suited, lol. It's really only a suggestion on my part, as I've observed this forum a lot in 9-10 months, and this is what I think is the peaceful solution to all of the fights.

But of course!

You have all sorts of digital equipment to clean noises and correct defects, a true Photoshop for sounds.

Or do you think Britney and Jessica Simpson are good singers?

When Britney performed in Rio de Janeiro in front of 15,000 fans, her playback failed and she was forced to sing: she got booed and all her teen fans cried in disbelief she sucked so bad.

add one more...hey, at this rate, we're bound to bring our percentage up sooner or later...lol

Add me to that list as well. :laugh:

Exactly.

Anyway, to Titan. there is a difference between a negative opinion and respect. Less people like Stapp than like AB, so of course mroe people will post their negative opinions about Stapp than those who psot them about AB.

If someone were to give me a logical, coherant REASON for their negative opinion of a band such as Alter Bridge, I would certainly engage in lively debate with them and enjoy doing so.

MOST Alter Bridge fans that I have noticed are *usually* respectful of others opinions even when they don't hold them. I can't say the same for stapp fans. Without naming names, I can count at least 6 who are totally ridiculous in their blatant disregard for opposing viewpoints. I don't WANT to hate Stapp. If someone could show me he had an oucne of musical depth or a heart bigger than a pea, I would love that. I wish I had more people that I could listen to and enjoy. Stapp crazy's tend to not WANT to consider opposing opinions, and often there is nothing more rude and annoying than having to argue with someone who refuses to listen.

/rant

This time around it was too much root beer, for those of you who get the joke... lol

It really goes on both sides, though. You've got AB fans who are just as bad as the Stapp extremists. Maybe there aren't as many such AB fans as there are Stapp fans, but they do indeed exist.

My whole thing was that, if you hate an artist, you really should not come into their forum and say so, unless you want to start a huge fight, unless you want to get into trouble. Never did I say that criticism or negativeness regarding an artist is wrong; I'm incredibly negative when it comes to cruddy "singers" like Ashlee Simpson, Britney Spears etc.

He's asking you guys to stop the nagitivity... that's all! I just think it's funny that you guys crucify Stapp for finally retaliating AGAINST ALTER BRIDGE'S YEAR LONG STAPP BASHING INTERVIEW FESTIVAL. I'm sure Stapp knows what Tremonti has been saying... and he's probably fed up with it. He could probably handle things differently... but like Titan said, you Stapp-haters are too quick to judge him on every level. He announces that he's trying to reconcile with God, you criticize him. He releases ONE song... and you guys make it sound like the entire album is garbage (without listening to it), he makes a video that's simple and it's the worst music video ever (Alter Bridge did the same thing... and you praise them). It's okay to be an AB fan and Stapp fan... relax and loosen up. I like Stapp and AB equally... but I will never go into the AB board and bash them time after time like some of you do in here. Then good threads get SHUT DOWN because people make piss worthy posts and incite arguments. Constructive criticism is fine... but the continuous posts devoted to Stapp hating is getting really annoying. You can worship the ground that Alter Bridge walks on... that's fine... but please knock off the negativity in nearly every post.

One more thing... Creed is indeed post grunge... however, they did create their own sound. Alter Bridge has carried on that sound (as of now) and so has Stapp. Creed has influenced both bands and there is nothing wrong with that. Hell, they even influenced other bands... like Submersed. Just relax everyone.

Yeah I can agree with titan and Chase posts in almost everything, cause I feel the same way...some guys just came here to bash Stapp, like i said in athe other thread seems that"bash Stapp is cool"...Of course everyone is free to entitle his/her opinion...by the way, I was very disappointed with his first single Great Divide and said it on board even though the majority of his fans seemed liked it...

Of course I posted my disappointment with his new song cause I think he can do better than that, so I was expecting more from this guy. And yes, I can RESPECT a member who says hosnetly that 'Stapps song isnt great, he did a lot of stupid thing in the last days of the band, that clearly contributed to Creed's end, his solo video isnt a creative one...thats all okay...These are OPINIONS! THERES A REASON!!!

IMO, the problem is when someone in a thread that has nothing to it just came and say " Stapp is a jerk"; or "Stapp does a lot of crappy", " Hes an idiot." Whats the point of exclaiming that? Theres no real reason ...its just to provoke his fans and when we answer that --they say we are "RUDE"...or we are "making an enormous drama"... :rolleyes:

For example, whats the meaning of answering "oh, Stapp is a jerk" in a thread about whos the better singer????.Even on the thread posted to his birthday I recall some people saying how they dislike him...You CAN dislike him...but why go to his birthday thread just to say that??? I clearly hate ashley simpson...so why go to her site and posting something 'like shes a very bad singer, a stupid girl with no talent'? I cant to that because I respect the people rights of having different opinions from mine.

Also, Im not a Stapp fan but also an AB fan. Love them equally and hope carreer are successful for both.


And I hope I'm not one of the six ... :rolleyes:lol

That's exactly what I meant, Ana. It's nice to see someone agrees with me. When you said that you disliked The Great Divide, you did so in a respectful manner and did not use the typical "I hate it because Stapp is a jerk" response. Constructive criticism is fine, imo; clear bashing in this forum isn't.

I'm just trying to be honest... at first I didn't like Mark was telling how wrong Stapp acted and he never called him "he's a fucking asshole" like Stapp did. The only one who got heavy was Brian: "he's a pathological fucking liar". But then I heard behind the scenes stories by a reliable person who's not on this board, and hey... AB could've ended Stapp's career if they wanted to. They don't. So they just expressed their thoughts... I don't blame them for that... There was someone in a group of friends of mine and this person totally changed to the level we couldn't stand anymore... she ended up leaving the group, fighting with almost everybody... You just can't help it: when people used you and lost your trust, it's human nature calling. You'll talk about it and it won't be pink glasses.

But what bothers me is Stapp tells a different version in each interview and takes credit for things who aren't his: writing all of Creed's music when he can't play guitar enough or making the largest shelter in Shiverport (spelling?) to say two examples.

Anyway, moving on to the music itself:

It's so sad to see how much Stapp's voice has deteriorated over the years. That voice that got me hooked at first is no more... His tone is almost gone, the southern accent is more evident but the falsettos are horrible now. Granted in one of them he was sick, but in St. Louis it still sounded bad comparing to previous years. And it's evident in all bootlegs for those who wanna listen to it. You don't admit it only if you don't want to.

As for the lyrics, Stapp changed style a bit, I think. He's going into a Aerosmith/ The Calling direction: verse/ chorus/ verse/ chorus/ bridge (although I don't think SM has one) / outro being variations and repeats of chorus words. Back in Human Clay, it was long verses/ chorus/ long verses/ chorus/ bridge/ chorus. Now his words are fewer and repeat more often.

I liked TGD better than RL and SM, although it isn't fair to SM since it wasn't the studio version. TGD is a good song but Stapp can do better. He did in the past, I don't see why he can't do it again. Reading PBF, I didn't see anyone saying those were the best Stapp songs ever so far.

And about his video... I have nothing against it. I anticipated something a bit different, but it's a good performance video. But it was weird to see Stapp singing sitting in the beginning, when he's used to move all around on stage! lol

So that's it... That's my whole view on this for now. Crucify me if you want, but I believe I'm being fair.