Stapp in NY Daily News: " ..Stapp is hellish"
 

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/sto...p-315063c.html

Maybe rocker Scott Stapp - former front man for the very pious Christian rock band Creed - was possessed by Satan when he showed up for a taping of the Spike TV show "Casino Cinema" on Tuesday afternoon.
According to multiple sources on the set, the 32-year-old Stapp appeared intoxicated when he arrived at the show's upper East Side studio and proceeded to terrorize hosts Beth Ostrosky and Steve Schirripa, the producers and the crew members alike with his boorish and vulgar antics on- and off-camera.

Stapp - who just released his first solo album, "The Great Divide" - was there as a guest co-host on the weekly program, which plays a movie with intermittent breaks of studio chatter and interactive casino games.

"From the moment he walked into the studio, he was rude, belligerent and drunk," reports a Lowdown spy. "With Beth, he was nothing but extremely mean, sexist and an all-around jerk."

Another source says that even with his publicist in tow, Stapp cursed "every other word," called a female executive producer a "b-," constantly flipped the bird, and referred to Ostrosky - better known as Howard Stern's longtime girlfriend - as a "bimbo."

Stapp also couldn't resist taking swipes at his more famous rock colleagues. "I met [U2's] Bono and The Edge, and Bono was an a- to me," he declared, before insulting Foo Fighters front man Dave Grohl's manhood as "freaking little."

When a crew member accidently bumped into him on the set and quickly said he was sorry, Stapp snapped, "Yeah, you better f-ing be."

Says one spy, "Beth and Steve were total professionals about it, and did everything to make sure the show got taped."

Reps for Stapp and Ostrosky did not respond to detailed messages yesterday, but viewers can see Stapp's bad behavior for themselves - with appropriate bleeps, of course - when the show airs Dec. 6.

Titan??? are you here? :lol

Thank you Alicia for sharing this article. Poor Stapp...he just doesn't learn.

Yes, I'm here Marcos. :D I've heard that this column in the NY Daily News is gossip, so this story could be false. I'm taking it with a grain of salt until I actually see the show that they are speaking of. If he looks smashed on that, I'll believe the story.

To rephrase what I said earlier in that other thread: "if everything they say is true, wow, Stapp has a drinking problem and needs to get help for it. Not for the sake of his music, but for the sake of his son. This can't be good for little Jagger."

seriously, it's true. Alicia can tell us where she found that... I just logged out from abb.net and I'm that lazy to go back and search for the source. But it popped up before the NY Daily column.

Well, like I said, I'm just going to wait until they air that show. It may or may not be true, and that's why I am waiting to see it for myself.

lol the Foo Fighters have dissed Stapp since 2000 and I've heard that Bono is a dick. Stapp makes a better bad ass, tortured Christian as opposed to a pacifist. He's coming out swinging these days... and I honestly don't care. The guy is the butt of all jokes... he has nothing to lose.

har, that's kind of funny... one self-righteous singer making fun of another (Bono)

but, all kidding aside, it looks like Stapp was merely trying to put on his good, reborn Christian face a few months to a year ago merely for some good publicity. now he appears to be hopelessly out of control. who knows? in 10 or 20 years, there'll prolly be some show on MTV or VH1 or E! True Hollywood Stories about how Stapp's career went down the crapper with his public image.... hopefully he can save himself (or, perhaps, someone else can save him) before he commits suicide in the figurative sense....

Bono... the self enthroned holy enlightened leader of the United Nations.... lol :D

LOL! That is pretty funny about Bono....wait, isn't Stapp a big U2 fan? :laugh:

In all seriousness, it sounds to me like Stapp's a nice guy when he's sober(based on the accounts of some fans who have met him), but a really mean guy when he's drunk. Me thinks he has a drinking problem that he should take care of?

Howard Stern confirmed the incident this morning on the air.

Interesting. But I'm still reserving judgment until I see the thing aired. I want to see just how "smashed" he was.

I will wait to see it aired and see what scott says about it.
theres been to many FALSE bad things said lately from people who obviously can't stand the fact that scott is getting on and has an awesome new album out this is going to do really well.

they have no right at all. They have tried to steal creed's sound and are still trying. listen to them from learn to fly to today "exaxctly"
look at what equipment they use and what creed used exactly the same amp set up and they even used a prs when recording. also dave grohl uses the mic scott has used for years.

so I think the dave grohl deserves all the comments (if any were actually said)

^^ Correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't the Foo Fighters been around longer than Creed?

Nice to see everyone else slowly realize what us fans in Chicago discovered 3 years ago.

Told ya so...

LOL...yeah, Steve, the Foo Fighters first album came out in 1995, and enjoyed lucrative success with their 1997 album The Colour And The Shape...neither album sounded like Creed, since Creed's first album was 1997...and, as for the rest of the Foo Fighters canon, it doesn't sound a lot like Creed, either...and why in the hell would Grohl want to steal ANYTHING from Creed, anyway, as he played in a little known band from Seattle named Nirvana...

I'm sorry, but you're wrong on this. Foo Fighters started before Creed, plus, they sound nothing alike, regardless of the equipment used. Dave Grohl is way more talented than Scott Stapp could ever hope to be.

WHAT??? :eek: Foo Fighters sounds nothing like Creed ...and they are a pretty talented band who makes awesome music ...actually they are still alive but Creed...you know... :rolleyes:

Same here. :)

:roll: You may be on to something!

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but, all kidding aside, it looks like Stapp was merely trying to put on his good, reborn Christian face a few months to a year ago merely for some good publicity. now he appears to be hopelessly out of control.[quote]

Apparently he's a really mean drunk. Its pretty clear he needs some help with alcohol. He claims to be such a good father; he needs to do it for Jagger. And then he can write his next album: "The Great Sobriety" about it all...
:duff: :cheers:

yes but they complete;ly changed their sound and the exuipment they used AFTER creed, which I am sure is no coincidence.

Wow. How can you even come back after that one? Anyone care to help me? LOL

BTW, look here: http://www.prsguitars.com/artists/list.html - all those bands use PRS guitars. There's bound to be some bands that also use the same amps, monitors, mics, etc. that Creed did. I'm sure those bands ripped off Creed's sound as well because we all know that no other band in the world is allowed to use the same combination of equipment that Creed did without wanting to copy them.

It seems to me that Stapp's not happy, people drink cause they have problems in there life. I should know, I know a couple of people in my life right now who drink away there problems (sort to speak). I don't think he's happy in his relationship with his new girlfriend either. Cause if he was, do u think he would be acting this way? Just like he said on the back of his booklet of the great divide, He called his girlfriend his rock, but if she was his rock, he would do anything for her. He would stop drinking and become better Christian, right? I don't think he's ready to be the person that he wants to be. It doesn't seem like he's happy with his life and the things around him, I think Stapp needs help and he needs to find it fast. He could lose a lot of fans like this as well. I mean I'm not one of them that he will lose, but some people out there may not wanna put up with his bs for long.

um, they were successful BEFORE Creed...their albums AFTER Creed sound like their albums BEFORE Creed...if you were to actually hear "The Colour And The Shape", you would realize that they are capable of LOTS of different approaches...LOL...well, MOST would realize it, anyway...the Foo Fighters have NOT changed their sound appreciably...any song that they released AFTER "The Colour And The Shape", I can show you a song on TCATS that is the precursor to that sound...I mean, if you're going to go for a band that MIGHT have lifted a bit of the Creed sound, you MIGHT want to go into the Three Doors Down direction or something, but you've got nothing on the Foo Fighters...

Or Nickelback or Puddle of Mudd or Default or *insert currently popular "rock" band that is regularly played on pop radio*. I totally agree; the Foo Fighters are not Creed rip-offs. They've got their own sound and they're a very good band.

yeah, I'll agree that Creed HAS influenced more than a few bands, as ANY hugely successful rock band will...I didn't want to name drop too much, though, as I don't listen to enough of those bands to really give specific examples...LOL...but, I have a few Foo Fighters albums, so I could fight on THAT hill...LOL...

Definitely. When you think about it, without Creed making it big in '99 on mainstream radio, maybe Nickelback, Staind, Hoobastank, Default, 3DD etc. etc. wouldn't have made it big on pop radio. Creed has definitely influenced a lot of the bands currently on mainstream radio.

Shockingly, I don't even own a Foo Fighters album. My bros all do, though, so I know a fair bit of their music. I plan on buying their newest eventually.

I agree...and, unfortunately, since I wasn't much of a Creed fan, I definitely didn't think that was a good thing...however, as I am an AB fan, I have tremendous respect for Mark and his music...




well, I can't recommend The Colour And The Shape enough...it's their best album, and it's pretty versatile, so, if you dig that album, it would be safe to delve into more...

I agree with Evyll...I bought the newest one and have only played it twice...be sure to listen to some samples before you make your choice...good luck...

Yeah, I really didn't become a big Creed fan until 2002/2003. I had heard of them and thoroughly enjoyed the music, but I never really delved into their stuff more than what I had heard on the radio. When I did, I found a lot to like about them, particularly their work on MOP.


Thanks for the recommendation. I'll definitely check that out. I think my local Best Buy has it, so I'll probably pick a copy up at some point this weekend.

yeah, I just didn't get into them mostly for the vocals, as, generally, I don't like that type of vocals (some of the lyrics are really good, though)...but, yeah, if I were to own a Creed cd, MOP would be the one I would get...the bass really sticks out on that album more than any other...I'm hoping that they mix the next AB cd a little better so that we can hear more of him...



that's cool...it's a good test-the-waters cd, because, if you like that album, you like the Foo Fighters...whatever THAT means...LOL...

After that segment airs, it's all over for Scott.

I can't believe he had a chance to make a comeback and just pissed it away. Drunken fights, drunken TV appearances.... unreal.

I don't think it'll all be over for him, even if he did show up drunk to that show. A lot of rockstars screw up BIG time, far worse than Scott has, and still make music and are successful while doing so(Scott Weiland, for instance). I think if he does have all of these substance abuse problems, and gets help and is really sincere about kicking the habit, he could still be able to be successful. If he doesn't do that, though, it very well could be over for him, and he'll only have himself to blame.

He's had 3 years to get his shit together, clean up his lifestyle and make a comeback. Nothing has changed. He's done.

The difference between Stapp and other RockStars is that none of them pretend and promote to be something they are not, actually most are proud of their rockstarish behaivior which is also good publicity for them now a days. Stapp has to find himself and see who he really is and what hes really doing before giving up substances, substance usage is only one of his many issues as it appears.

I agree, he does promote himself as being different from all the other rockstars. If all the rumors are true, he is definitely still living a double life. I mean Christians do have problems, but the key is to admit it, pray for forgiveness and get help. He's basically going to have to do that, if he ever wants to have a shot at being respected again by the fans. All of this assuming, of course, that he does have problems with substance abuse. Though it looks likely, that hasn't been fully proven, which is why I say "if" so much.

That is one of my favorite aspects of the MOP CD. I love the bass lines.

VERY well put. I JUST signed up to agree with you. But I would like to bring it a few steps forward.

Scott Weiland is not a brawler and a belligerant drunk like Stapp is. Weiland is a junky..a complete junky. The only person he "beat up" was his wife..and that is probably because she is the only person he could win in a fist fight against. But on a more serious side, Scott Weiland doesn't piss all over his fans. There are waaaayyy to many incidents with Scott Stapp totally bitching out fans, and acting like he is technically "Jesus Christ" himself. Without being "nasty" about Mr. Stapp, I'll just paste a article that everyone can read..and after you read it, look at what he has been doing in public.

http://www.christianitytoday.com/mus...tapp-0804.html

The only reason I paste that is it contradicts everything he has done in the past. Before the most recent "incidents"....maybe he was trying to get his life together...but like many of his other comments, I can't help but think that everything he does is a marketing ploy.

And will people stop saying that all these other bands are "copying" Scott's "talent"? Scott copied his "talents" from Eddie Vedder, and Jim Morrison...and to be perectly honest..Eddie Vedder was probably mimicking Jim Morrison...and if you want to go back even farther..that specific style of voice was really introduced by Elvis. You cannot be in "rock" today without having certain influences..and it's obvious that Scott Stapp isn't making all of this up on his own. He is not "coining" anything. He may be talented to a certain degree..but he is no Dave Grohl (Even though I don't listen to Foo fighters..I still have mad respect for the level of talent that David Grohl posseses.) And I use the term "to a certain degree" very loosly.

I used to be a big creed fan when My Own Prison came out..but shortly after that I started hearing reports after reports of real crappy things he was saying to his fans, and the way he treats people. The second they went 5x platinum..I would only assume their heads would get big..but I never hear about Mark Tremonti getting sloshed all the time and dropping the hammer form the top rope.

And another point is.. I understand that most of you who have been huge Scott Stapp fans have a tendancy to stick up for him when he does something stupid. As long as people on this forum understand that true fans will defend him to the death..those true fans have to also realize that Scott Stapp is KNOWN for this type of behaviour. And when people bash him for things (ex. fight with 311..) it's like the boy who cried wolf. If he was not the type of person to do this type of stuff, then I would assume everyone would wait for the verified stories...but that is not the case. People jump to conclusions because usually those conclusions are right. is it unfortunate? yes..in fact, I would have probably been a creed fan if he would have at least understood who and what he was becoming. For someone to do the majority of the things he has done in the past 6-7 years in the public eye..and then turn around and try to deny what he is doing to himself, his fans, and his reputation, it wreaks of pathalogical lying. At least Axl Rose knew he was a jerk, and didn't get on tv acting like he was the victim of the "cruel media."