Originally Posted by nagpo

-It's funny that you bash stapps lyrics "saying without tremonti" they would have been "shit". And you also claim them as questionable. You know that Stapp writes the majority of Creed lyrics and always has, right? The only song Tremonti wrote completely by himself in terms of lyrics as far as we know was Torn. Tremonti may have had input in songs lyrics but it was always stapp that made them flow. Or atleast it was a joint effort. WAWO was All stapp, even mark admitted to this and that song won a grammy. Do you even listen to Alter Bridges lyrics? They are bad for the most part. Those songs get by on the music instead of the lyrics, which Myles is hardly involved with. "if tremonti hadn't been co writing with stapp and been on guitar, full circle would have been shit." There wouldnt have even been a Full Circle without tremonti being involved. What a stupid thing to say.

-Creed is definitely not a passing phase. The guys still enjoy playing and writing music with each other. They still have fans. If it were a passing phase then they would not have reunited in the first place.

-On stapps new Vlog he sounds pretty good. His voice isint what it used to be, i'll admit that. But I'll wait for the fifth album and world tour to decide if he really has lost it. He said he is going to start taking better care of his voice, he's stopped smoking.

And to Tremontiriffs77, If Alter Bridge never happened, Tremonti and the rest of the band would not have been able to experiment and bring the more original sound to Full Circle. Tremonti writes in terms of what sounds like Creed and what doesnt, like he stated. He mixed a bit of both in Full Circle.

Musically, I think a lot of the guitar work was tremonti. Stapp can play the guitar but he can't do what Tremonti can do. the only exception possibly being Rain which they stated was a song they have been trying to write since the early nineties. And maybe some of the more personal songs he could have possibly been holding for his solo album.

In the end, both parties grew in their time apart. Alter Bridge is good for Tremonti to do things he can't do with creed(like more metal stuff). And With Creed he gets to play in front of thousands of Alter Bridge fans and Creed fans. Then again, that would be implying that AB fans didint have their heads up there asses about creed in the first place. Tremonti has even stated that Creed is a 'legacy' and think Full Circle added to it in a positive way.

I look forward to Alter Bridge III, another Stapp solo and Creed V. I've been supporting all of them since they started and hope they continue.

Originally Posted by nagpo

-It's funny that you bash stapps lyrics "saying without tremonti" they would have been "shit". And you also claim them as questionable. You know that Stapp writes the majority of Creed lyrics and always has, right? The only song Tremonti wrote completely by himself in terms of lyrics as far as we know was Torn. Tremonti may have had input in songs lyrics but it was always stapp that made them flow. Or atleast it was a joint effort. WAWO was All stapp, even mark admitted to this and that song won a grammy. Do you even listen to Alter Bridges lyrics? They are bad for the most part. Those songs get by on the music instead of the lyrics, which Myles is hardly involved with. "if tremonti hadn't been co writing with stapp and been on guitar, full circle would have been shit." There wouldnt have even been a Full Circle without tremonti being involved. What a stupid thing to say.

-Creed is definitely not a passing phase. The guys still enjoy playing and writing music with each other. They still have fans. If it were a passing phase then they would not have reunited in the first place.

-On stapps new Vlog he sounds pretty good. His voice isint what it used to be, i'll admit that. But I'll wait for the fifth album and world tour to decide if he really has lost it. He said he is going to start taking better care of his voice, he's stopped smoking.

And to Tremontiriffs77, If Alter Bridge never happened, Tremonti and the rest of the band would not have been able to experiment and bring the more original sound to Full Circle. Tremonti writes in terms of what sounds like Creed and what doesnt, like he stated. He mixed a bit of both in Full Circle.

Musically, I think a lot of the guitar work was tremonti. Stapp can play the guitar but he can't do what Tremonti can do. the only exception possibly being Rain which they stated was a song they have been trying to write since the early nineties. And maybe some of the more personal songs he could have possibly been holding for his solo album.

In the end, both parties grew in their time apart. Alter Bridge is good for Tremonti to do things he can't do with creed(like more metal stuff). And With Creed he gets to play in front of thousands of Alter Bridge fans and Creed fans. Then again, that would be implying that AB fans didint have their heads up there asses about creed in the first place. Tremonti has even stated that Creed is a 'legacy' and think Full Circle added to it in a positive way.

I look forward to Alter Bridge III, another Stapp solo and Creed V. I've been supporting all of them since they started and hope they continue.

Originally Posted by Icedmofo

Well now that we've upgraded ourselves to calling eachother stupid, i'll bow out of yet another thread.

Grats to you.

Originally Posted by Icedmofo

-Yes, his voice does sound better on the vlog, yay. I also am not sure about the smoking thing though, i know he said he quit, but i keep seeing people mentioning that he hasn't, but i haven't seen proof either way, but i hope he has, it'll help a lot.

-Do i get to call you a poop head now to maintain the maturity level? I do appreciate that a legitimate discussion can degrade into calling eachother stupid, makes me nostalgic for jr. high again, so grats. i would hate to see this thread actually go back to an intelligent and mature discussion. /end sarcasm

Originally Posted by Icedmofo

Please, i quit world of warcraft cold turkey.

That makes smokers look like pansies

Originally Posted by rabidgopher04

I have the solution!

Scott Stapp should write lyrics for Alter Bridge.

Originally Posted by My Sacrifice

HAHA. You should tell the fans on the Alter Bridge site that.

Originally Posted by Agent D

Why is everything so divisive on this board?

Originally Posted by My Sacrifice

Because people either want to argue or read other peoples arguements?

Originally Posted by Agent D

I guess so. A good interview with Tremo degrades into a yet another Stapp vs Tremonti/Creed vs Alter Bridge debate. Yawn.

Originally Posted by nickmiller71

I bet Tremonti is so stoked to get back to AB. He always seems so damn bored and unamused when he's with Creed, lol.