Well, your post is VERY difficult to read, but you say it is hard to imagine someone saying "I don't need the Lord"? It isn't really. Everytime you sin you are putting something before God, and in essence saying you don't need God.

just run through the typos and you will figure it out :D

Well I mostly answered what I thought was your most important objection.

Uncertaindrummer, I want to thank you for continuing in this discussion with me without getting too upset at me. You had some very strong arguements and I hope you can say the same about mine. Unfortunately, I am in the process of moving and I will no longer have a computer. So the time I had on here was fun and once again, I want to thank you for debating. I hope all goes well for you now and in the future. God bless.

-Brian Dario-

"What we do in life, echos in eternity."

It was a good discussion. I understand the whole moving thing; I have been making a move of sorts lately and have been very busy.

Also, thank you for being very charitable the whole time.

I would say it depends on your religious leaning I know that the Nazarines doctine state that one can lose their salvation (if there is such a thing). I know on the other hand that the Presbyterian Church does not believe that one can theirlose salvation