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titan9 11-29-2005 11:20 AM

Stapp on Live with Regis and Kelly
 
I'm very disappointed. Not with Stapp's performance(which was, imo, vocal-wise, better than the Leno one) but rather with the show. They cut the intro AND the second verse. Also, they only talked to him for maybe 30-60 seconds. Basically, they spent 10-15 minutes with Barbera flippin' Walters and 10 minutes with Tom Arnold, and they could only spare maybe 4 minutes with Stapp? So ridiculous. If they could have given Stapp just 8 minutes, that would have been plenty. Instead, they cut the song short and barely talked to him. Not only that, but the 30-60 seconds they talked to him was about Creed.

Alright, now that I've ranted about ABC enough, I can talk about the performance itself. He wasn't quite as jazzed up as the Leno one(no cool mic-stand tricks), but he was still rather energized. And he actually hit the notes better than before, imo, particularly the chorus. Given that he sounded better, I just wish we could have seen how he would have sounded while singing the FULL song.

Bridge of Clay 11-29-2005 12:09 PM

I heard it was lip synch. Is this true?

How did he look? Rumours say he got his ass kicked by the guys of 311 on the night before.

titan9 11-29-2005 12:11 PM

Uh....Marcos, are you drunk? :laugh:

Far as I could tell, he wasn't lipsynching and he didn't look beat up. If that rumor is true(lol), those make-up people did a fine job on him. ;)

TeriB19 11-29-2005 12:57 PM

I slept right through it. Anyone rip it?

Bridge of Clay 11-29-2005 01:02 PM

no, they said the music started all of the sudden and Stapp put a weird look on his face while trying to catch up... that's why I'm asking, not stating.

ALECIA326 11-29-2005 01:04 PM

I thought he did a good job. As far as the lip synching I do not think so but I could be wrong.. I am not sure if the whole thing about 311 is true cause I read that and looked for it they did alot of face shots and if that were true I do not think they could cover it with makeup cause there was nothing there but there again I could be wrong?

TeriB19 11-29-2005 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bridge of Clay

How did he look? Rumours say he got his ass kicked by the guys of 311 on the night before.

Marcos, where did ya hear it? I'd be interested to see this story!!

Bridge of Clay 11-29-2005 01:38 PM

From LoracNJ on abb.net. She's considered reliable:

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Even more proof of what a douche bag Stapp is...

A friend of mine who knows the guys in 311 called me to tell me that Stapp had a “run in” with them on Friday. Apparently Stapp was staying in Baltimore, MD with his girlfriend (I believe her family lives there). Well the guys in 311 had shows in MD the night before and after Thanksgiving and were staying in the same hotel Stapp was. The guys in 311 were at the bar with their girlfriends and Stapp came in with his girlfriend. So Stapp was already off his mind and decided to start with the guys in 311. He said to their girlfriends, something along the lines of “Why are you with them when you could be with me. I sold 30 million records you know." Now mind you this was all said in front of his girlfriend as well. So they decided to take this outside, but before they did that Stapp offered to buy the guy a shot before they headed outside, and on the way to the bar he sucker punched him. After that a fight broke out between him and the guys. All the while Stapp’s girlfriend kept apologizing and saying “He gets like this, he mentally abuses people, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.”

I don’t know how hurt Stapp was. I believe the drummer broke his hand because his hand was in a cast at the Atlanta show they did on Saturday. Considering Stapp is going Regis and Kelly tomorrow this should be interesting to see.

ETA - Please see page 3 for explaination on who broke their hand. Photo is included.



Moving on to page 3:

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Just one quick thing. I will apologize for 1 thing. I originally wrote I believed it was the drummer who broke his hand. I am probably wrong on that. I wasn't told which one it was. I just assumed it was the drummer because after I heard what happened I went to see if I could find photos of the show from the next day. I saw a photo of one of the members and he had his hand in a cast. I thought it was the drummer because I saw pictures of the lead singer and guitarist and they were okay. I have no clue who any of the guys in 311 are. I think I know maybe 4 311 songs total. It probably is that DJ guy. Here's the photo that I saw anyway.

[image noborder]http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/3365/g431121jl.jpg[/image]

Okay I just looked at it again. I am a dumbass. The drummer is freaking sitting behind his kit!!! . Sorry about the confusion. I AM Mr. Magoo. I should have worn my glass

Also while it may be hard to believe it really isn't so far fetched. I have been told of another few incidents witnessed first hand by band members that have toured with Creed. A few of them never made it to the internet and I never posted out of respect for them because I was asked not to, but they were all true. This time I was told it was okay.

titan9 11-29-2005 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Bridge of Clay
no, they said the music started all of the sudden and Stapp put a weird look on his face while trying to catch up... that's why I'm asking, not stating.


Very interesting. I hadn't heard the rumor myself, and assumed you were just fooling around. I just read that whole post, and, well, I'm not going to really say too much. I'd honestly like to see more proof that this is true before I actually believe it. I mean, I'm not saying I think that girl is lying about it, I'm just saying that I take it what I read on message boards with a grain of salt. It kinda reminds me of a story a few months ago, regarding Stapp and a Denny's restaurant in Gainesville(google it if you're interested). Anyway, despite that story sounding incredibly real, it was proved to be false as far as I know. That's why I'm not believing this new incident until I see further proof that it could be true.

cyndeelouwho 11-29-2005 01:56 PM

I hate that show! I hate it more now that Stapp was invited on and not AB! LOL

titan9 11-29-2005 02:05 PM

For those who did not see it, PBF now has a video up of his performance on Live. You have to be a member of the forums to access it, though.

As for the lipsynching thing, I highly doubt that. I watched it and it seemed too real, too live to be lipsynched. Who started that rumor, anyway?

Bullets 11-29-2005 02:23 PM

Yeah - just watched the video - definitely NOT a lipsynch - Scott sucks at lipsynching - remember the Thanksgiving Day Halftime show a few years back? THAT was bad..lol...

As for the fight story, i'm calling BS on that one for a couple reasons. First and foremost, the most obvious is that he did not look injured at all in any way, which means he either whooped all their asses or its not true. Makeup always helps, but it can't make you look perfect. Second of all, had their been a fight, the cops would have been called and we'd have a situation similar to that at the nightclub several years back when Scott got into a skirmish with some guy there.

Overall it was a very good performance and I"m with you Titan, ABC sucks - the fact that they cut out the second verse pissed me off. His voice is definitely getting better and stronger though - looking forward to seeing future tv performances.

IamFilthy 11-29-2005 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Bridge of Clay
I heard it was lip synch. Is this true?

How did he look? Rumours say he got his ass kicked by the guys of 311 on the night before.



Defenitely not lip synch....as for the Stapp/311 skirmish you have got to be legally retarded. :clock: Any fight in a public place with celebrities would be all over the news. Your friend is about as reliable as three-legged ballerina.

SummerGirl 11-29-2005 02:56 PM

I'm not calling BS on this one...btw, two reasons is a couple of reasons not several...

This alleged altercation occurred on Friday night...today is Monday...two days of healing plus consider that during fighting there are multiple possibilities (a) Scott can protect himself...especially his own face...(b) the guys he fought know how to fight and didn't go for the face instead opting for the oh so painful kidney body type shots or (c) the 311 boys don't know how to fight, etc...let your imagination run wild...

Make up DOES make people look perfect...that's what it does...just ask any print model who gets up at 3 am after partying all night...

Also, the prior post evinces the easiest reason to believe it this time around is that Stapp has clearly indulged in this type of behavior before and repeatedly.

Furthermore, what well-known and substaniated fued is there between 311 and Stapp that would cause for them or their crew to be sharing such stories...the story itself is not very flattering to 311, so where is the glory?

Another good performance for Stapp. Good for him! Onward and upward...

IamFilthy 11-29-2005 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SummerGirl
I'm not calling BS on this one...btw, two reasons is a couple of reasons not several...

This alleged altercation occurred on Friday night...today is Monday...two days of healing plus consider that during fighting there are multiple possibilities (a) Scott can protect himself...especially his own face...(b) the guys he fought know how to fight and didn't go for the face instead opting for the oh so painful kidney body type shots or (c) the 311 boys don't know how to fight, etc...let your imagination run wild...

Make up DOES make people look perfect...that's what it does...just ask any print model who gets up at 3 am after partying all night...

Also, the prior post evinces the easiest reason to believe it this time around is that Stapp has clearly indulged in this type of behavior before and repeatedly.

Furthermore, what well-known and substaniated fued is there between 311 and Stapp that would cause for them or their crew to be sharing such stories...the story itself is not very flattering to 311, so where is the glory?

Another good performance for Stapp. Good for him! Onward and upward...


who said it was them or their crew?...people make up such BS just to start sh!t. Who knows how these things get started. But trust me,...you would have heard it yourself if it were true,...not heresay from "a friend of some friends who know the band".

Bridge of Clay 11-29-2005 03:09 PM

ok, so I was wrong. It didn't happen the night before, it was on Friday. But if you see the pic, 311's DJ is injured indeed.

The Gainesville thing was real or not? I didn't see anywhere confirming it wasn't true... I didn't believe most of it (drugs), but I do think he went there for a booty call.

As for IamFilthy remark, I feel sorry for you. I won't bother to go down your level...

anyway, do you think it's interesting for Stapp to get bad publicity (bar fights) when he just released his album? First, it may have happened quickly... Secondly, no cops involved or there wasn't any press on the local at the time.

Not to mention Stapp's PR could pay people to shut up. It wouldn't be the first time.

titan9 11-29-2005 03:11 PM

Both SG and Bullets make good points. It's highly possible that this whole thing was just made up. But given the past(the bar fight from a few years ago, for example) it's also somewhat possible that this did happen. Like Bullets said, though, I find it hard to believe that if there was a fight(and someone broke their hand) that the police were not called. And like IAmFilthy said, considering it was supposedly a fight between two celebrities, it'd probably be all over the news by now if true.

So, like I said before, I am taking this rumor with a big grain of salt.

SummerGirl 11-29-2005 03:13 PM

Fark, the Smoking Gun, Fox & Friends would not find this "news" worthy of a sound bite...let alone the New York Post.

All I'm saying is that it could have happened. There are two camps involved in this story. The truth, as always, lies somewhere in the middle...well, that...or the video tape...LOL!

I wouldn't have heard it directly. The 311 boys don't have my number and neither did Stapp last time I checked.

titan9 11-29-2005 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bridge of Clay

The Gainesville thing was real or not? I didn't see anywhere confirming it wasn't true... I didn't believe most of it (drugs), but I do think he went there for a booty call.


As far as I can tell, it was proven false. The morning following the supposed "booty call", Stapp played in a Celebrity Softball game, as reported on PBF. Those who met him at said Softball game said he acted completely normal, no signs of him having done cocaine the previous night as written in that blog story. There were supposedly pictures of him at Denny's, but when you compare those pictures with pictures of him at the Softball game, those pics on the blog looked extremely old and didn't compare with recent pictures. One thing I found extremely hard to believe, though, was that he'd make his sister, of all people, drive him down there. I think that's what really made me think it was false. That and the fact that he'd drive there just for a girl he didn't even know, especially when he is with Miss New York!

I really looked into the story after reading it, and I came to the conclusion that it was probably a bunch of teenagers just making up a story to get their 15 minutes of fame. The sad thing is, VH1's Best Week Ever blog was suckered into reporting the story.

IamFilthy 11-29-2005 03:20 PM

[quote=Bridge of Clay]ok, so I was wrong. It didn't happen the night before, it was on Friday. But if you see the pic, 311's DJ is injured indeed.

The Gainesville thing was real or not? I didn't see anywhere confirming it wasn't true... I didn't believe most of it (drugs), but I do think he went there for a booty call.

As for IamFilthy remark, I feel sorry for you. I won't bother to go down your level...

anyway, do you think it's interesting for Stapp to get bad publicity (bar fights) when he just released his album? First, it may have happened quickly... Secondly, no cops involved or there wasn't any press on the local at the time.



Like I said before,,,,A fight between CELEBRITIES in a PUBLIC place would have fallen into the hands of SOMEONE other than "a friend of a friend who knows the band',...and besides,...you heard it off of an ALTERBRIDGE forum,..it doesn't take a genius to figure this one out :headbang:

Bridge of Clay 11-29-2005 03:39 PM

Lora would have nothing to gain by posting that.

I saw the video from R&K... no sign of lipsynch. It began so abruptally though. I wonder if they played this way or if they edited... probably edited it.

Mrprophetman 11-29-2005 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bridge of Clay
no, they said the music started all of the sudden and Stapp put a weird look on his face while trying to catch up... that's why I'm asking, not stating.


If you actually watch the clip....the camera is focused on the drummer when the song starts and not Stapp. So who the hell saw the weird look on his face? Sure didn't sound like a lip synch job to me....and he didn't look any worse for wear either.....and supposedly he had been beat up?...and by a pansy reggae band?

I've got to consider where this information was originally posted...and then consider it the bullshit that it is....hehe

Bullets 11-29-2005 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SummerGirl
I'm not calling BS on this one...btw, two reasons is a couple of reasons not several...


Fixed - Thank you grammar queen... :bow:

:D

sina2b 11-29-2005 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bullets
Fixed - Thank you grammar queen... :bow:

:D


I personally know that stapp is an ass at bars, I go to a bar right under my apartments often to get a beer or something after long days of school, I saw stapp there once (2-3 years ago) and he was alone, and I was a huge creed fan at the time. I went over and introduced myself and offered him a drink (and the bartender said its on the house since they knew me) but he refused and wanted some alone and quality time. a little thing like that could have ment alot to me but i guess the 10 minute alone time ment more to him. and I was reading this post in the ABB Forum about how one of the members met AB at a bar and had a blast with them. this guy is pathetic but his voice is sadly still good. If the bar story is true if i was there i wouldve threw a couple of punches myself :)

SummerGirl 11-29-2005 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bullets
Fixed - Thank you grammar queen... :bow:

:D

You are quite welcome!!! Always glad to help!!! ;)

Creed7352 11-29-2005 05:02 PM

311 is not a pansy reggae band...LOL

and be nice to summergirl, she's cool.

someone that was at the actual taping of the regis and kelly show would've seen stapp's face...

Bullets 11-29-2005 05:05 PM

oh i'm just playing around - no hard feelings :D

Creed7352 11-29-2005 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Bullets
oh i'm just playing around - no hard feelings :D


okay :D

sina2b 11-29-2005 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by titan9
Those who met him at said Softball game said he acted completely normal, no signs of him having done cocaine the previous night as written in that blog story.


there are no signs when you do coke, you dont act weird or anything you just get alot of energy, its not like other drugs where you can tell wether someones on it or not unless they overdose on it or something.

RMadd 11-29-2005 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by cyndeelouwho
I hate that show! I hate it more now that Stapp was invited on and not AB! LOL

ummmm... yeah.... i don't think most people who watch or go to see regis & kelly would, you know, like AB. they're mostly middle-aged women and, no disrespect to the more respectable ladies on here, but I'm pretty sure my mom would rather see Stapp than AB.

sina2b 11-29-2005 08:42 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by cyndeelouwho) I hate that show! I hate it more now that Stapp was invited on and not AB! LOL

ive recently started listening to AB and the more I listen to them the more I dislike stapp, i dont know what the relation is though but yea hes starting to totally suck, and his new CD came really good to me at first, but Im getting over it allready.

RMadd 11-29-2005 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by sina2b
ive recently started listening to AB and the more I listen to them the more I dislike stapp

why?

Ana4Stapp 11-29-2005 09:14 PM

I liked his performance better than on Leno. He seemed a little more confident. But maybe it could be real better IF guys from Goneblind just help him...cuz honestly I think they CANT...

sina2b 11-29-2005 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by RMadd
why?


cause the dude seems to be a real pain, it is his personal life but I sure dont like it. I mean I thought he only refers to the album sales every time anyone gives him a chance to speak but when picking up girls in bar, that is so lame. And then he goes around saying how fame changed the other guys and how insecure they were/are! talk about being insecure!!!

Rocketqueen 11-29-2005 10:35 PM

i have,nt whatched yet i recorded it today so i will whatch it later,

titan9 11-29-2005 10:37 PM

That's why I only try to judge him by his music. If I judged him based on what I've heard he's done, based on some of the silly things he's said in interviews....I would be a very negative critic of him. But that's why I don't judge him by that stuff; that's why I only defend his music, not his personal life. I try not to let what other people say/think about him effect how I feel about his MUSIC. There's a ton of haters out there, but that won't change the fact that I am a fan of his music.

Rocketqueen 11-29-2005 10:45 PM

of course :) man

sina2b 11-29-2005 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by titan9
That's why I only try to judge him by his music. If I judged him based on what I've heard he's done, based on some of the silly things he's said in interviews....I would be a very negative critic of him. But that's why I don't judge him by that stuff; that's why I only defend his music, not his personal life. I try not to let what other people say/think about him effect how I feel about his MUSIC. There's a ton of haters out there, but that won't change the fact that I am a fan of his music.


Do you really think that if it wasnt for Mark, scott wouldve been where he is today? But if it wasnt for Scott Mark may have not done so well but he wouldve at least been where he is now as far as AB goes. Yes he has a good voice but I bet he doesnt know much about music, even if he does its mark that taught him and its not right to bash him as Stapp did, why listen to what people have to say when you can digest it from their own actions. He's a complete ass and yes I agree his voice is good but so is my moms; hes just one of those people whose "been there at the right time"; its not all his music and talent.

Mrprophetman 11-29-2005 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Creed7352
311 is not a pansy reggae band...LOL

and be nice to summergirl, she's cool.

someone that was at the actual taping of the regis and kelly show would've seen stapp's face...


They are to me. There were people at the taping who had their picture taken with the guy himself...I haven't seen her say anything about his looking like he had been beat up.

Mrprophetman 11-29-2005 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by sina2b
Do you really think that if it wasnt for Mark, scott wouldve been where he is today? But if it wasnt for Scott Mark may have not done so well but he wouldve at least been where he is now as far as AB goes. Yes he has a good voice but I bet he doesnt know much about music, even if he does its mark that taught him and its not right to bash him as Stapp did, why listen to what people have to say when you can digest it from their own actions. He's a complete ass and yes I agree his voice is good but so is my moms; hes just one of those people whose "been there at the right time"; its not all his music and talent.


As I have seen someone else post here.....Mark Tremonti has been calling Scott Stapp an ass for over a year now. How come Mark Tremonti can do it, but Stapp can't respond to questions about it?


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