Hi everyone...

Could it be Stapp's fault? Is it becuase of Stapp the album will take that long time? I mean, they says that the album might come out at Sep 4th. That's almost a year.

I've heard this, but I don't know if someone can prov it.

• Stapp was at a Pool-party and got a blow-job by a pornstar
• Stapp drogged himself away

I don't know if someone can prov that Stapp got that blow-job or took those drogs, but I know that a bitch drived all over his car... Anyway. No one can prov the blow-job, right? And it doesn't have to be drogs, it could be just alcohol or some other shit. Anyway...I'm worried for Stapp. Does Stapp start to losing grownd?

//THE LITHIUM

first of all.... i dont think any of us could prove it... maybe the police or sumthin... 2nd it would be disturbing if it was true...because i dont think that's stapp's character....at least not his character from the last few years....maybe oldskool college stapp....i hope he hasn't gone back to the dark side....
that being said...
if the album is delayed... then the album is delayed...LIFE IS NOT OVER.... there will be new CREED material sometime....

Yeah, but Sliver Side Up and Weathered came out at almost the same time...Now Nickelback got their new and Creed's will take about a year...Why is that??

Yeah, I do really hope that he hasn't! That would break my heart!!

it's important the quality of the songs and the album,not the time it'll took for recording.whatever the reason is the album to be delayed,i can wait coz it's worth waiting

I don't care how long it takes as long as it's good. Think about the last year and half they had. They went full tilt and had a bit of stress, good and bad along the way...Mark's mother dying, Mark getting married, Flip's becoming a dad, Scott's accident/voice/health woes. I think they need to live a little, step back, try to have as normal a life as they can, recharge the batteries. Writers always get that urge to express eventually. I don't think Creed are any different. Hell, Jerry Cantrell went four years in between albums, writing and recording all the way. I'll tell ya, the wait was long, but so worth it. His last album was incredible.

dude...THEY TOOK A FUCKING YEAR OFF........the times between MOP,HC & Weathered where incredibly short....GIVE THE GUYS A BREAK!

I hate to say it, but Nickelback's album came out fairly quickly, but for the most part it is a rehashing of Silver Side Up. Should we ask Creed to rush their next CD just to get a rehashing of Weathered?

Good God, no! Not that I hate Weathered or anything, but it's my least favorite of the three.

Steve makes a good point their new album is really a heavier version of Silver Side Up, Nickelback haven't really progressed very much. Any accusations about Stapp's personal life until anything is obvious is pure conjecture and i'm sure he wouldn't bring any girls (apart from serious girlfriends) when his son is there.

We shouldn't even be discussing his personal life, let them live and while the wait is too long if they are recording in Janurary hopefully the album will be out before September the 4th.

How about the DVD while we wait??

Something....anything....

I don't care when the new album comes out. The main concern all of us has I'm sure is to have a healthy band in mind, body and soul. They need time and I'm OK with that.

would love that DVD though. That shouldn't be too hard to pull off, should it?

i think there's always alot of Red Tape with that stuff....but i'm sure Wind-Up is working on it....

Not sure what's going on with Scott, and I don't think it's any of our business. I pray that he and the rest of the band are safe.

<!--QuoteBegin-Dogstar+10-26-2003 05:24 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Dogstar @ 10-26-2003 05:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I don't care how long it takes as long as it's good. Think about the last year and half they had. They went full tilt and had a bit of stress, good and bad along the way...Mark's mother dying, Mark getting married, Flip's becoming a dad, Scott's accident/voice/health woes. I think they need to live a little, step back, try to have as normal a life as they can, recharge the batteries. Writers always get that urge to express eventually. I don't think Creed are any different. Hell, Jerry Cantrell went four years in between albums, writing and recording all the way. I'll tell ya, the wait was long, but so worth it. His last album was incredible. [/b][/quote]
My thoughts exactly, Dogstar. :) I think it's great that they are taking some time off for themselves. Am I anxious for new music? Absolutely, but I'm willing to wait. I was just saying yesterday that I want them to be around making music for a long time so I'm willing to be patient so they can live a normal life like the rest of us and make great music without feeling rushed.

that better not have happened

Let them take their time. The boys will know when to release their next CD. Rush it, and you get an inferior album. But time it just right and you can get another MOP or better it!

It says on Wind-Up; "Don't hold your breath for a DVD"...So I guess it won't come out! They said that the DVD would come out in 60 days...That's now. Where can I get it then??

Where does it say that?

lol I don't see that anywhere on the site...

I don't beliebe nothing about this, i think that's a stupid thing.
I cant stand that people have to say all this stupids lies time after time. :argue: :(

What do you not believe?

Personally, I don't mind waiting another year (now we're almost down to 11 months!) because, as has been previously stated, the overall quality of the album will likely be much better. Weathered, I felt, was not that great because it was written and recorded in a relatively short period of time. I agree with Steve regarding Nickelback--they just don't impress me that much. I don't know how some artists (I'm thinking mainly rap and pop artists) are able to put out albums in such a short period of time... but the music is oftentimes simpler, and sometimes not even written by the artists themselves. Rock music, it seems to me, is far more complex, and requires greater attention to detail.

Alot of people, including me would say tha weathered in more then a few aspects is just a rehash of human clay. Of course one could go with the notion that it's always most common with a band third album to pick various features from the first two. Weathered picking the solid production of human clay "weathered" "one last breath" and "my scrafice" and the gritty polical edge from my own prison "signs."

But what actual growth that took place on weathered was on hide and who's got my back. No one can deny that it was rushed, and that it was also a contractual agreement album as well. As I have said, it's always good to pick up where the first two albums left off, but for godsake push the envolpe here. Don't get me wrong, weathered was a good album, but not up to par with my own prison and human clay, and I have my reasons I sure people are contious of. Kinda like what godsmack did with faceless, it's basically the same thing as awake, almost virtuly the same album but slightly tweaked from awake. Just a bit more gloss. Totally dissmissing the fact it took 2-1/2 years to make.

I don't consider Weathered a rehasing of Human Clay. Weathered is fairly different from HC. I'd almost go as far as saying Weathered took a step back from HC...

Yeah, I think it's a different sound all together, except for maybe Freedom Fighter, Signs and Bullets.

<!--QuoteBegin-Steve+10-27-2003 08:15 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Steve @ 10-27-2003 08:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I don't consider Weathered a rehasing of Human Clay. Weathered is fairly different from HC. I'd almost go as far as saying Weathered took a step back from HC... [/b][/quote]
Is sort of a rehashing and sort of isn't (WAWO and MySac both about Jagger; What If and Bullets about the media). However, Weathered most certainly IS a step back and not a continuation. If it were every bit as good as and similar to HC, shouldn't it have gone Diamond by now? Overall, Weathered has a less optimistic tone than does HC.

its a more cleaner sounding album, Stapp's vocals were much better, a progession in hide and who's got my back and more extremes eg: from bullets to lullaby. saying that this album needs to push the envelope and do something different not make HC or MOP part 2 like some here would like.

accually....tho the Lyrics in Bullets was about the same subject...it was quite a different song than What If?.....it was much harder....more agressive

I'd like to see more harmonies included, even if it's all Stapp.

Just be patient ;)
Creed will have a new album out when they are ready to do it! As far as the Weathered album goes, its my favorite of the 3 :D

<!--QuoteBegin-BearFan+10-27-2003 09:48 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (BearFan @ 10-27-2003 09:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If it were every bit as good as and similar to HC, shouldn't it have gone Diamond by now?

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well tons of people probably just bought HC for With Arms Wide Open

<!--QuoteBegin-musicmind226+10-27-2003 08:29 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (musicmind226 @ 10-27-2003 08:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> No one can deny that it was rushed, and that it was also a contractual agreement album as well. [/b][/quote]
actually a lot of people could, because you don't have proof of this contract

<!--QuoteBegin-extreme_LITHIUM+10-26-2003 03:52 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (extreme_LITHIUM @ 10-26-2003 03:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Hi everyone...

Could it be Stapp's fault? Is it becuase of Stapp the album will take that long time? I mean, they says that the album might come out at Sep 4th. That's almost a year.

I've heard this, but I don't know if someone can prov it.

• Stapp was at a Pool-party and got a blow-job by a pornstar
• Stapp drogged himself away

I don't know if someone can prov that Stapp got that blow-job or took those drogs, but I know that a bitch drived all over his car... Anyway. No one can prov the blow-job, right? And it doesn't have to be drogs, it could be just alcohol or some other shit. Anyway...I'm worried for Stapp. Does Stapp start to losing grownd?

//THE LITHIUM [/b][/quote]
:lol:

What the??? Do you think this is funny?? :wtf:

A older band that some of you might know of, Journey, took 10 years to do a album. It turned out to be their best ever. If it takes longer, I won't complain. :)
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3LATINASHOT

<!--QuoteBegin-extreme_LITHIUM+10-27-2003 06:56 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (extreme_LITHIUM @ 10-27-2003 06:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> What do you not believe? [/b][/quote]
I don't believe nothing that you said about you heard, you can heard it, but is not true :peace:

They should take as long as is necessary to make a quality record. I am as eager as the next guy for some new stuff, but I do NOT want to see Stapp have another year like the last 1.5 and if he needs to chill for a while - then by all means chill Scottie baby! He is a person for Pete's sake - he has a life other than Creed and he should be allowed to live it without us laying guilt on him because we are music greedy! Dogstar and others have shown me the light - getting into live stuff is satisfying my need for more Creed while we wait for the real new stuff

I don't think it's funny...What I do think is funny is that after all this time, this stuff is still being brought up. We all know last year was not the best of times for Stapp and we are all aware that he has crossed the line more than once in the past year or so....He is the one that has to deal with it, him and his family and we shouldn't keep posting it and bringing it up. What he does on his own time is his business, whether it's getting poolside blow jobs or getting drugged up. Yes, we are all worried about Stapp too, but we are merely fans of his music and there is a line to be drawn as to what we need to know. As long as he brings us music, we shouldn't be wanting more. He is taking time off because of certain things and issues and he should be given the time and space to do what he needs to do. I would much rather wait and have one helluva kickass album and know that it is up to par than to push for something less than they are capable of and the inevitable repercussions that would follow...
Just give love to allllll..............

[quote]I am as eager as the next guy for some new stuff, but I do NOT want to see Stapp have another year like the last 1.5 and if he needs to chill for a while -
then by all means chill scott.
i would rather they take there time so the album will be awsome
i remember seeing a interview with korn along time ago and the
recording company wanted them to put a album out every year
which may have been in the contract,but by being rushed there
one album wasnt what they really wanted and not as creative.
so by taking off for awhile and focusing on the next level of
where they wanted to go with the next album,there creativity flowed
and the next album was a success.
and for scott's personal life that is his buisness

<!--QuoteBegin-e_stapp+10-28-2003 02:23 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (e_stapp @ 10-28-2003 02:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-extreme_LITHIUM+10-27-2003 06:56 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (extreme_LITHIUM @ 10-27-2003 06:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> What do you not believe? [/b][/quote]
I don't believe nothing that you said about you heard, you can heard it, but is not true :peace: [/b][/quote]
But let's face it! Stapp was at least drunk at the Chicago-consert 12-29/02. That's a fact! It could be drogs too. But I really do not hope that it was!

<!--QuoteBegin-extreme_LITHIUM+10-28-2003 07:35 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (extreme_LITHIUM @ 10-28-2003 07:35 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> What the??? Do you think this is funny?? :wtf: [/b][/quote]

yeah i do think its funny that you are asking people to prove whether or not stapp got a blowjob from a pornstar

jesus christ man