Scott's Vocal Problems (Explained)
 

Firstly let me say I respect Scott Stapp now more then ever and as much as people have argued back & forth about his vocals it's apparent there's something up. If you want to flame me go ahead but I think the fans deserve an explanation and I think I've finally found one.

I got several comments on the MyContent ERock video on my Youtube channel (now removed), one of which was a guy saying he didn't really like how his voice blended with Scott's (fair enough) I took that as ragging on Eric, so he messaged me explaining the comments & come to find out he's a close friend of the guys. I replied with what about Scott's voice etc. so here's what he said was going on in the Creed camp... I'm not naming names (sorry) you're just going to have to take my word for it...I for one believe him 100%

"fyi there isn't anything "wrong" with stapp's voice.
For some reason the allergies he has always had, have
become really bad. They think he is ingesting something
his body that is highly hyper allergic to. The minute he is exposed
his airway swells almost double its normal size. And if you can't breathe
you can't sing. You could tell on some songs when he would sound fine
then suddenly nothing seemed to come out.
He got a episode of it very severe the beginning of the tour and then
it would subside, think about mid tour then started again later end of tour.
He also began chain smoking at the same time. going from half a pack to almost 2 packs A DAY ! LMAO bad on his part
Which is why some performances he sounded good and then others off.
They are looking into this all and working with top allergy specialist.
Looks like also going to use natural methods too.
But unless he stops smoking its all only half ass.

All that said, all the guys are proud of stapp for giving his all
while not being able to breathe. He did a damn good job.
They reference the breathing issue in the Creed DVD
If you know anything about this type of allergies, it is complete
misery for those who suffer with it."

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Makes sense I suppose. Hopefully he gets help. I never heard of him having bad allergies before.

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Thanks for posting DK. I remember reading an article several years ago where he said something about being frequently sick as a child. That explaination sheds some much needed light. I hope he stays away from the smokes.

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I don't think that will happen here, more likely at ABB :rolleyes:

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They're just as receptive to the news over there as here :D

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It's been a touchy subject for some reason, for those in denial anyway lol he'll improve no doubt about it, it's just a matter of staying away from smoking and solving these allergy issues. Scott deserves to be in top vocal condition now, he's finally changed his life around for the better.

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Yeah, I've known about his allergies.....this isn't that surprising to me.
I still find it kind of hard to believe that they are so bad, that his voice seems to literally change....but it does make a lot of sense.

I knew it was a breathing problem for sure, but I still think smoking has a lot to do with that.....I just hope he recovers.
If we can't get 100% with Full Circle, atleast Stapp will be in ship shape come the next release and tour.

I hope he gets relief soon.

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I'll always stand by Stapp regardless of his vocal abilities, but it's great to know that there's no real damage to his voice, and that he can recover.

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He needs to quit smoking, or his vocal problems are only gonna get worse!
He's got so much talent it's a real shame to let anything get in the way!

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I know this sounds stupid but smoking isn't the main problem right now, it's the allergies. Sure it's making the problem worse but if he can't breathe then he can't stay on pitch plain & simple, he's been smoking for years which it's never hurt him before.

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It helps his grit and screaming, actually.. lol

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Sound like a good explaination. I hope he gets well enough for them to make another cd soon. I love full circle and want more. If his voice is going to take a turn for the worse, make cds and tour later. Need atleast two more good cds from this group to put them on the preverbial pedistal. Plus, I'm just being selfish.

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Man. I was just listening to the Scott Stapp boots that were up on Alter Bridge band message board and Scott could still sing and growl like he did for the first 3 tours of Creed. He could almost do as well at Delray from what I could tell on the cleaned up versions of those few songs. I wonder what happened between Summer 2006 and Fall 2008. Even more so between Fall 2008 and the recording of Full Circle and the Summer/Fall tour 2009. He just doesn't seem to be trying any high register stuff. No scream or yelling stuff. Just deep chested vocals and low register yells, which are the best to preserve the voice. Wow. :eek:

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Sounds like a reasonable excuse. Like I have said most times I hear him he sounds outstanding and some times mainly recordings like conan he is terrible if it was permanent he would always sounds poor.

Maybe it's cologne or something that starts it off but knowing what the prob is 1/2 the battle

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The source finally messaged me back... here's a little bit more info.

"The same people that have dogged out Creed for years set out on a campaign to do all they could to put negative things out there, it was done with evil intent and on purpose to try to make the new album and tour fail. I know alot of things but dont think it is right for me to say. I only told you what I did because I took you for a upright person. As for telling people anything Id just say that this is nothing new, this happens to pretty much any singer of a band but as you know Creed has many haters. I also know that many videos audio were tampered with on purpose and then placed all over the internet, to hurt this tour and new album. that is the depths those type of people will go to and still are. What personally offends me is when they say Mark really hates Stapp or that the guys all dont like him. It is so far from reality. Mark is stoked to have the real stapp back like he once was but now an even better version. Or about them liking Alterbridge more over Creed, so false it makes me laugh. Eventually with time people will see that. I hope. Someone I know is in the music industry (at UMG) and knows them all personally and are very close friends with the guys and their wives. Also I have a relative who is in a relationship with one of tremontis relatives."

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well the most importan thing The Album Or The Tour did,nt fail which many would have love to see and made it all the way too THE NUMBER ROCK ALBUM personaly i dont think its algeries Or smokes Which Im Not White Whashing It By No Means Because They Are Not Good For Ya :smokin: there is that big warning Label Everytime You Get A Pack And Menthoal Can Be The Worse Kind Im a smoker and its not a easy habbit to quit and more so when your under stress But Im Praying And Stand Fasting as well as for others For This Issuie To Heal when you a singer and you cant sing Those Reasons Are Going Hit Strong Which Dont Bring A Faithfull Vibe But A Doubting Vibe Which is Only Going To Make The Condition Worse ~~PEACE~~:jam:

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At first I didn't put 100% faith in your source, but considering he's replied I think it's safe to say he's reliable. No one would make two long responses, if it was just a joke or something.

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I believe it, exactly as stated. It was actually hard to miss, how obvious most of these sabotagers tactics were. I just hope this is looked into. Thanks for posting the update.

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Firstly I don't believe anything was "tampered" with other then the fact that Scott's vocals have been heavily edited and tuned throughout this trek which is excusable because he's suffering right now but the guy seems pretty defensive all of a sudden... he sent me 3 other messages trying to explain himself lol but who knows, I asked him about it all so I'm waiting for another reply, it could just be a fan making all of this up for the fun of it.

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I wonder why Stapp himself won't publicly comment on all the speculation. It's obvious that his voice is different but he acts like nothings changed. Surely the band knows what the fans have been saying. Seeing as how we buy there records and support there tours and practically listen to there music religiously, don't we deserve some kind of peace of mind? Some kind of response from the band? It's like they're blowing it all off.

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I don't think anyone "tampered" either. The New York show that is available at DIME and others you could clearly here Scott struggling through the whole show. It wasn't editing that does that when it is obviously him having vocal issues. It has been every performance, the down tuning of all the songs, and the fact that he clearly is singing completely different than he ever has before.

It sounds like he did have the surgery for the vocal nodes and hasn't fully recovered his voice. This is very common apparently after having surgery that singers have a lower voice and have pitch problems. He also isn't able to scream at all. When he tries to scream, he has such a limited spot either he hits it or completely out of key all over the place. He seems to be able to sing is his limited range that he always has been able to sing in. That seems to be prevalent on the record. He just isn't able to control his scream and doesn't have the force or ability to yell/scream anymore. His voice is just shot on the upper range. It is like having a bad cold and not being able to yell or scream. You can sing ok, but you have such limited control. He is singing from his diaphragm, which is good, but it is like his throat is purposely numb so he isn't tempted to scream and risk losing his voice. Either that or his vocal cords are damaged and he just cannot scream in control anymore. When he tries to tighten is diaphragm and scream, it is like he pinches off all the air and what we hear is the blown out area of his upper range that is left. Sorry if I am being critical. I am a huge fan and just wish Scott the best. He is a great artist and an awesome singer!

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Check this out.

Scott Stapp - Live @ Fort Worth, TX - 03/13/2006 (Ridglea Theatre)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/fykgt1

When you sing in this condition, you cause damage. I know Scott probably didn't want to let the fans down, but years of this will result in nodes that eventually have to be operated on. This then helps so you can speak and sing in a limited range, but kills the range you once had.

If Scott was singing in this condition on the Armed forces tour and was smoking like a chimney, this could have resulted in flaring up his nodes or causing new calluses on the vocal chords.
Also, it is apparent with the amount Scott sweats and how much he smokes, he is dehydrated. This will make you horse right way at a sound check or prior and will not let you voice recover to its full range. Hydration, rest and stopping the smoking may help him recover his once very powerful voice. That is if he doesn’t already have damage from calluses, nodes or surgery to repair such ailments. Good luck Stapp! We want you back 100%, but most fans of yours will accept you for better or worse. Just let us know what is going on so we can write it off.

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Very nice posts ^^

This forum needs more people like you :)

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Thanks BSC. :rolleyes: