Thank You, Kurt
 

February 20, 1967. A day that the world changed without even noticing, in small Aberdeen Washington.

April 4, 1994. It is a day that will forever be imbedded into the minds of many as the day an era ended.

April 8, 1994. The day an electrician found the body of Kurt Cobain in his Seattle home that he shared with wife Courtney Love and daughter Francis. Reports state the cause of death as an "apparent self-inflicted shotgun wound to the head."

It seems almost sureal being here at home, for Spring Break, on the day that Kurt Cobain, one of the most loved figures in music, died. In four days, it will be the aniversary of the day Kurt's lifeless body was found. As many of you know, I live in small-town Montesano, only 10 miles east of Aberdeen, and there is so much love, respect, and devotion to the man who pioneered a way for countless numbers of musicians. I know his mother, Wendy. I know his uncle, Leland. I know people who knew him. There is so much history of Kurt and Nirvana all around me.

Post you memories of Kurt and Nirvana here. It has been 10 years since his death, but his presence is still felt; the ghost of Saint Kurt.


Kurt's Death Certificate
King County Medical Examiner's Press Release
The Shotgun
The Note

For more on the last days of Kurt Cobain, visit http://www.justiceforkurt.com/investigation/documents/

Goodbye, Kurt.


H-D :rockon:

Amen to that

...I'd also like to thank Layne Staley, who also died the same date as Kurt, just two years ago. R.I.P., both of you. I hope you're jamming together somewhere. You both are missed. :(.

hate me all you want, but Nirvana is WAY WAY overrated.

Decent band and all, but for some reason everyone claims that they started the new sound aka 'grunge'. Come on. Their first album was a below average punkish record, highly influenced by DC area punk of late 80ies. 'Nevermind', their first good album, and supposed start of the new sound was released AFTER AIC and Pearl Jam released Facelift and Ten respectivly.
Nivana was a decent band, that scored a huge hit, was an MTV darling, so they got even more famous, and also had a 'martyr' figure.

All the lists of top 100 guitar playes of all time with Kurt in top 10 are bogous -- he was a decent guitar player, but that's where it stops. Same goes for him being called an awesome singer -- his voice had fit his songs, we all got so used to, but other three big grunge bands had MUCH more proficient singers. Lets just give credit where it's due.

Basically -- good songs, good band, but just because they were big and than their singer killed themselfs it doesnt make them larger than life band that can be put on the level of say Led Zeppelin.

flame away now...

I happen to agree with you for the most part, Lechium, but today it's all about remembering, I guess. I've always been way more partial to Alice anyway, hehe, as if you didn't know that already. Timing had a lot to do with Nirvana's success. And while technically, Kurt wasn't the best vocalist or guitar player, he did have another just-as-important quality -- feeling. His voice drew me in from the get-go. There was just a ton of emotion and honesty in it, from what I could tell, and I was hooked. I'm not even a punk fan, really, but Nirvana's music touched me deeply, as did Layne and Alice In Chains' stuff. I'm grateful for what they gave us and I just wish they didn't have to leave us so soon.

They didn't become "larger than life" because their lead singer killed themselves. It was because their music influenced so many people, partially because it was different. Their music spoke to a generation, much like the Beatles, Zepplin, Doors, or Van Halen. Kurt was respected and loved when he was alive, and respected and loved after he died.

And, we don't have to start hating you because of this post. We already hate you. :D


H-D :rockon:

Nirvana did something right because we've got two bands ripping them off: Seether and Puddle of Mudd.

Nirvana is overrated, but that doesn't mean they were crappy. Sure, I don't like Nirvana and I think Kurt sings terribly and plays the guitar terribly, but he did write some good lyrics and tunes. Pearl Jam is much better than Nirvana, though.

especially Puddle of Mudd.... now, I like them and all, but their lead singer seems to be going for the Cobain look or something

Well, this is what ticks me off: Puddle of Mudd and Seether are ripping off Nirvana. Not only vocally, but musically. No critic has said anything about it. While Creed has their leadsinger who sounds somewhat like Eddie Vedder (He doesn't even try to dress like him. Hell, Vedder never wore leather pants) and BAM, we've got ourselves a Pearl Jam rip-off band. The music sounds nothing like Pearl Jam's. It's pure crap!

Hey, speak for yourself ;)...

Nirvana was the most pop oriented of all grunge bands. They had tonns of radio friendly not too heavy songs, with very straighforward lyrics. They did get more interesting in In Utero, so we can only guess what could come next, but Nevermind everyone loves so much is just a poppy verion of punk common for local underground of early 90ies.

P.S. if you take word 'pop' as an inslut -- sucks to be you

I wasn't much into Nirvanna :)

Julie i was not a big fan either, but i did have a lot of respect for kurt he was gifted person, And i feel for his child who he left you could tell she rocked his world, But The Great and the Gifted never die They Live On through others, as u can see kurt influnced many others, And i feel in my heart Hes Rocking On At this very moment, in a better Place, ROCK ON

Personally, I don't label music. There's far too many genres that are similar and run into each other. Pop-Country, Rap-Metal, Blues, R&B... things evolve drift into each other. To me, music is music. If they are "poppy," it doesn't matter, because they were the first to make it big, inspire other bands in the genre, and they added to it, before it was dubbed as "grunge." And, no, pop is not an insult to me.


H-D :rockon:

As far as Nirvana goes, the only CD I have of them is the Unplugged. It's an awesome cd. I respect what Kurt did as a musician, lyrically and musically. No matter what anybody thinks Nirvana left an impression on the music world, and with a little help from some friends (Alice, Pearl Jam, et. al), they brought in a new era of music, and thankfully saved us from the hair bands. I say thank you, Kurt, for saving us from the hair, and for those that haven't listened to Unplugged, give it a try. But what do I know, I like St. Anger.

St. Anger sucked hard!

Very nicely said. :clap:

Well, you do know quite a bit about "sucking," don't you? lol.


H-D :rockon:

Musically that is!

they had some good songs or what not, but they were over-rated

I only like a few of Nirvana's songs, but it doesn't matter what kind of band they were, anyway.

I saw this documentry months ago about Kurt, his friends, Courtney, and his daughter, etc, and before I watched this documentry about him, I had never really thought much about what happened to him, I just thought, "stupid druggie", but now, after watching this doc, it makes me think about Kurt differently, it brought me to tears and everything about it makes me feel sad. I don't know why, but it hits my soft spot after seeing this doco.

Thanks for posting that, some of that stuff on that website are really sad, especailly the Greenhouse Diagram, and his note.

RIP, Kurt Cobain.

Yeah, I hate it when people just think some of these people were only about drugs. They were human beings who had friends and family just like everybody else and they got caught up in something really awful. And it fricken killed them. There are millions in the same boat, but their experiences just aren't as public as those of Layne and Kurt's and other celebrities and artist. They were so much more about their art than the drugs. It's a shame that the media focus on the drugs under the guise of sales.

GO KURT GO!!! :smokin:

What? That one rocked hard!!!! But my fave-'Tallica is still "...And Justice For All" and "Black Album"!!!

I Definately have to agree w/ you lech... and dude... The Rolling Stone List... SUCKED.... Kurt really shouldn't have been on that list at all...IMO...

Mark wasn't even in the list. :rolleyes:

Why exactly are you talking about Metallica in a thread about Kurt Cobain, which was NIRVANA?


H-D :pimp:

That's what I sort of thought before I saw this doco. But I only thought that because that is what I heard, everywhere, TV, newspapers, magazines, internet, radio stations, do you know what I mean? Pretty much all I heard about Kurt was that he was a junkie and that was all he lived for, etc. It really sucked and I couldn't believe it after I saw this doco. (I'm sorry, I know I keep on going on about it, but it really did change my perspective).

Yeah, that's true. And it would have made it worse, obviously, being a star isn't all it's cracked up to be some of the times.

Totally, is is a shame, it's actually quite a disgrace, I think.

Yes, it is a disgrace, Hayley...That's probably why you thought what you did about Kurt because that's all the radio/TV/mags ever focused on. It's sad, really.

I was never a Nirvanan fan, agree with Lech again......... geez what is up with that! LOL

Anyways......I am not a huge grunge fan, never was. I am more the old school rock kind of girl. I do think there is more to his death than suicide though.... and why is it that our society immortalizes those with such issues and problems, just curious?

[quote=Higher_Desire]Why exactly are you talking about Metallica in a thread about Kurt Cobain, which was NIRVANA?[quote]

'Cause of some reason Trees said that St.Anger sucked hard. And St.Anger is Metallica!

[quote=extreme_LITHIUM][quote=Higher_Desire]Why exactly are you talking about Metallica in a thread about Kurt Cobain, which was NIRVANA? actually I mentioned it becuase some people don't think St. Anger was any good, and therefore people think that my judgement is not any good. Then it was mentioned that St. Anger sucked hard. Which it didn't. But lets drop the St. Anger conversation, for this thread. This is about Nirvana, and Kurt Cobain.

Just a little random piece of info for you guys... when Nirvana first came out, they were referred to as Alternative. It wasn't until AFTER Alice in Chains, Smashing Pumpkins, Soundgarden, and some others, that the music became known as Grunge.


H-D :tremonti: