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Higher_Desire 09-22-2009 07:23 PM

What's everyone's opionion on 'Rain'?
 
Since you've had to opportunity (or should have anyway) to listen to Rain, what do you think? If you haven't heard it yet, click here.

Personally, I love it! I've been listening to it non-stop. It's an amazing song in the style of classic Creed, but with a bit of a new tonal quality to it.

nthor 09-22-2009 07:57 PM

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It sounds like something that should be on a Scott Stapp solo album, wheres the guitar at. This is the weakest creed song ever. When the record was being record I think it was Mike Tremonti said some thing along the line of "This is going to be the heaviest Creed album to date." Well wrong with this one. But this will be the song will being millions of into the creed fan base who have no real passion in music they glamor over one song and have no idea about any of the real music.

skyguy86 09-22-2009 08:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nthor
It sounds like something that should be on a Scott Stapp solo album, wheres the guitar at. This is the weakest creed song ever. When the record was being record I think it was Mick Tremonti said some thing along the line of "This is going to be the heaviest Creed album to date." Well wrong with this one. But this will be the song will being millions of into the creed fan base who have no real passion in music they glamor over one song and have no idea about any of the real music.

who is Mick Tremonti?

nagpo 09-22-2009 08:47 PM

Re: What's everyone's opionion on 'Rain'?
 
It's sounds like a totally different band. A lot like the other stuff out there already. It is very much a pop song. You may notice that It and Overcome have similar song structure.

XALTERBRIDGEX 09-22-2009 09:00 PM

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Its an ok song i guess. You wont see me saying to my friends, "Hey you got to hear this song!!" The song will play on radio stations that I don't listen to, and thats fine. You will not find that song on Rock radio in Houston thats for sure! It is my least favorite out of what I heard so far, "A Thousand Faces" being the best! IMO

nagpo 09-22-2009 09:10 PM

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I actually don't like the song. The most generic creed song ever. No originality and it's poorly written, both lyrically and musically.

XALTERBRIDGEX 09-22-2009 09:19 PM

Re: What's everyone's opionion on 'Rain'?
 
Creeds Rain is equal to Nickelbacks "if today was your last day", songs that belong on the pop charts!

alitea 09-22-2009 09:25 PM

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Of course I love the song. It has a real feel good quality to it.

nthor 09-22-2009 09:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by skyguy86
who is Mick Tremonti?

Typo i meant mike

revisfoot 09-22-2009 10:03 PM

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1. To nthor - the question still stands -- who the hell is Mike Tremonti?

2. To nagpo - it's amazing how much a producer can influence the sound of a band and their albums. Kurzweig, who had produced all of Creed's albums to this point, produced One Day Remains, a very Creed-like record. The guys went with someone different for Blackbird. And, now, Full Circle, with Howard Benson behind the wheel shows yet another color spectrum in the Creed prism.

3. It IS a pop song, it's true. It's very Goo Goo Dolls-ish (post Superstar Carwash Goo). However, that doesn't make it a bad song. My $0.02 -- I like it. It's got a good tune, a singable chorus, and something that is upbeat. It's proof that this record is going to show us a very different Creed than we heard on the first three albums, and I like the idea of musical growth.

nthor 09-22-2009 10:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by revisfoot
1. To nthor - the question still stands -- who the hell is Mike Tremonti?

Michael Tremonti is Marks brother

razzroe 09-22-2009 10:29 PM

Re: What's everyone's opionion on 'Rain'?
 
i liked it. it does way differnt though almost a pop/country feel to it.

King Oropher 09-22-2009 11:36 PM

Re: What's everyone's opionion on 'Rain'?
 
Quote:

It sounds like something that should be on a Scott Stapp solo album, wheres the guitar at. This is the weakest creed song ever. When the record was being record I think it was Mike Tremonti said some thing along the line of "This is going to be the heaviest Creed album to date." Well wrong with this one. But this will be the song will being millions of into the creed fan base who have no real passion in music they glamor over one song and have no idea about any of the real music.

Didn't Mark say that there would be a couple of songs that people would expect from Creed, which I'm guessing would be the pop rock songs but that the rest would be heavy.

Higher_Desire 09-22-2009 11:45 PM

Re: What's everyone's opionion on 'Rain'?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nthor
It sounds like something that should be on a Scott Stapp solo album, wheres the guitar at. This is the weakest creed song ever. When the record was being record I think it was Mike Tremonti said some thing along the line of "This is going to be the heaviest Creed album to date." Well wrong with this one. But this will be the song will being millions of into the creed fan base who have no real passion in music they glamor over one song and have no idea about any of the real music.

Although I agree it has a tonal quality of a Scott Stapp solo song, I strongly disagree with your assumption that it will only be liked by those "who have no real passion in music...and have no idea about any of the real music." I've been a diehard Creed fan for near 10 years now since I first heard What If. I've heard every song Creed's ever recorded up to this album including Before I Die. An extremely rare track. I know Creed's music as well as anyone on here and am offended that you would make such a narrow minded and dubious statement.

Creed24 09-23-2009 12:06 AM

Re: What's everyone's opionion on 'Rain'?
 
Its decent. But for Creed I think it is sub-par.

nthor 09-23-2009 12:35 AM

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Ok, were I am getting at with my previous statement is this song is going to be a hit on the pop chats that will bring people to show and Rain will be the only song they know. A few years back I was able to attend John Mayers Austin City Limits filming one of the best shows I have seen of him. Well thew out the show half of the crowd was talking and not paying any attention to the show then his big hit at the time No Such Thing was played all the sudden all the people who were just talking are now singing every verse to that song. Well when it was over a few people left and the others went back to there conversation. Those who only know the hits of bands miss out on most bands best works. To me it seems they just like the song just because its popular at the moment and 6 months later they wont even remember a groups name.

Dark_Knight 09-23-2009 01:43 AM

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Incredible tune...it's forever stuck in my head.

Krisoz26 09-23-2009 02:49 AM

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I like it. For a released song it hits the mark not to heavy not slow the type of song that can be played a heap of places much like WAWO (Some of the weird places I have heard that)

I rarely think the best song on the album's get released the only 1 i can think of is Offspring's last cd (Your Gonna Go Far). The most part they are the slowest song with the catchest lamest beat. The trick is get new people into liking creed they buy the album and hear the "real" creed.

Compared to the rubbish on the radio it's heaps better. Damn sight beeter than Coldplay or Kings of Leon

Evil_wizzzard 09-23-2009 05:41 AM

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This song could still be perfected. the bridge and guitar solo (which is awesome anyway) could be longer. Scott sounds great. There are some good vibes.

Chris98GT 09-23-2009 06:13 AM

Re: What's everyone's opionion on 'Rain'?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nagpo
You may notice that It and Overcome have similar song structure.

That was my first thought.

The main difference is that Overcome is actually good. This song blows.

rabidgopher04 09-23-2009 08:10 AM

Re: What's everyone's opionion on 'Rain'?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil_wizzzard
This song could still be perfected. the bridge and guitar solo (which is awesome anyway) could be longer. Scott sounds great. There are some good vibes.


I'm hoping it's a shorter single version and the album version is longer.

Prog 09-23-2009 08:13 AM

Re: What's everyone's opionion on 'Rain'?
 
Like I said in another Rain thread, this song sounds more like an Alter Bridge song as far as lyrics go. AB never really had the deep and meaningful lyrics that Creed had, and neither does this song. I like the sound overall, but I prefer a little more depth for lyrics.

TrulyAmazing 09-23-2009 09:41 AM

Re: What's everyone's opionion on 'Rain'?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark_Knight
Incredible tune...it's forever stuck in my head.

its truly a master piece :rockon: foreva stuck in mine as well

Icedmofo 09-23-2009 09:56 AM

Re: What's everyone's opionion on 'Rain'?
 
Can you be more specific about song structure?

Most song structures even in different genre's of music are the same if you're talking about arrangement of verses to choruses to bridge.

Finaldecision 09-23-2009 10:19 AM

Re: What's everyone's opionion on 'Rain'?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Higher_Desire
I've heard every song Creed's ever recorded up to this album including Before I Die.


What the heck is "Before I Die"?

Higher_Desire 09-23-2009 10:44 AM

Re: What's everyone's opionion on 'Rain'?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Finaldecision
What the heck is "Before I Die"?

It's a song that Creed sang back in their Tallahassee bar days before even recording My Own Prison on their own Blue Collar Records. It was a song that (according to a radio interview clip) Mark wrote completely by himself. It's about smoking pot and getting high. The radio interview clip is fairly easy to find but the complete song is near impossible. I've only heard it once.

XALTERBRIDGEX 09-23-2009 11:28 AM

Re: What's everyone's opionion on 'Rain'?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by revisfoot
2. To nagpo - it's amazing how much a producer can influence the sound of a band and their albums. Kurzweig, who had produced all of Creed's albums to this point, produced One Day Remains, a very Creed-like record. The guys went with someone different for Blackbird. And, now, Full Circle, with Howard Benson behind the wheel shows yet another color spectrum in the Creed prism.


for the record Ben Grosse Produced "One day Remains" not Kurzweig and Michael Baskette produced "Blackbird"

in reality 09-23-2009 12:03 PM

Re: What's everyone's opionion on 'Rain'?
 
I agree, Krisoz26, this song is much better than what's on the radio. I heard the Kings of Leon song, and didn't think it was all that much. Kris Allen's first single, Live like your Dying, is actually a cover song by Script! Not even done that well, with rap chorus in it that doesn't fit! So Rain I think is as good in it's own way as Overcome. It's just awesome.

J-Man 09-23-2009 01:06 PM

Re: What's everyone's opionion on 'Rain'?
 
At first listen, I wasn't sure what to think of the song. After the second listen, I was hooked.

I think this song will be a big hit on radio because it is catchy and also because a lot of people are stuck in a rut nowadays. Think about it, thousands of people have lost their jobs, are feeling hopeless, several people have lost their homes due to floods and fires and this song pretty much says tomorrow will be a better day "with every tomorrow comes another life" etc . Songs like this one brings out the emotion in people and I am feeling this song. Great job Creed!

nagpo 09-23-2009 04:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Higher_Desire
I've heard every song Creed's ever recorded up to this album including Before I Die.

Link. I've never heard of this before.

Dark_Knight 09-23-2009 05:16 PM

Re: What's everyone's opionion on 'Rain'?
 
Yeah I've never even heard of "Before I Die" & I'm one of the biggest diehards there is...any link would be appreciated.

eusebioCBR 09-23-2009 05:36 PM

Re: What's everyone's opionion on 'Rain'?
 
A warm and fuzzy song and I'll probably listen to it when I feel I'm in need of a ray of sunshine.

austin. 09-23-2009 06:13 PM

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i dont like it. it would be better if stapp didnt hold the note at the end of the chorus
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rabidgopher04 09-23-2009 06:30 PM

Re: What's everyone's opionion on 'Rain'?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Higher_Desire
It's a song that Creed sang back in their Tallahassee bar days before even recording My Own Prison on their own Blue Collar Records. It was a song that (according to a radio interview clip) Mark wrote completely by himself. It's about smoking pot and getting high. The radio interview clip is fairly easy to find but the complete song is near impossible. I've only heard it once.


Sounds like that Mary Jane song I've heard. How many pot songs did Creed have back in the day?

J-Man 09-23-2009 07:01 PM

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Here are a couple of old live Creed b-side songs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=620nl...e=channel_page

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSGlQ...e=channel_page

Higher_Desire 09-23-2009 09:05 PM

Re: What's everyone's opionion on 'Rain'?
 
I have a copy of the radio interview clip of Before I die that I can e-mail to whomever wants it. It is NOT the full song. As I said, I've only heard it in its entirety once. The file is too large to upload here. PM me your e-mail addresses and I'll send it to you. Or post it here if you don't care who sees it. Also, you can usually find it on P2P searches. I don't know where to find it online, but you can try searching for it.

Dark_Knight 09-23-2009 09:17 PM

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I'd like to hear it...

[email protected]

& I'll do my best to search for the song...I doubt I'll find it though.

nthor 09-23-2009 10:45 PM

Re: What's everyone's opionion on 'Rain'?
 
Il take a copy of the interview too please, [email protected]

derko 09-24-2009 06:57 AM

Re: What's everyone's opionion on 'Rain'?
 
overcome and rain are horrible songs compared to the last 3 albums...

the new creed sound is pointless...

AlterTremonti 09-24-2009 07:06 AM

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Could you send me a copy as well? [email protected]


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