Mark and the boys on Creed?
 

I wonder when Alterbridge starts talking to the media when their cd comes out what they will have to say about the status of Stapp and Creed when asked, or what Stapp says? Im DREADING the answer!!!
IM sure the critics and Creed haters will be happy! :mad1:

we don't know the situation it could be better than many believe. even if there is any animosity they will be diplomatic and won't bash Stapp. I am dreading them saying that Creed is over for the foreesable future though. Just wait and see no point worrying....

I see them being diplomatic, yet more honest about things. But I don't see them doing the "PR Spin" like Stapp does.


IF WU would be smart enough to say "Creed is no more" or something more concrete than "on break"....then I think that'd make it easier for BOTH Efforts to move forward on their own course.

I really don't think they'll say anything overly negative...who would that benifit. But I also don't see them playing the fans as niave fools either.

There will be some controversey as to why Alter Bridge has the members of Creed, but with a different leadsinger.

Well, Mark sure didn't exhibit any diplomacy earlier in the year when 'just anyone' was listening.

I was reading an article earlier today where the former members of GnR were talking about how great it was to work with Scott Weilland in whatever the band is they're in now...saying that his drug problems were no big deal compared to working with the kind of jerk that Axl was, and all I could think was "what assholes"

I just hope they are honest and fair about it. There are two sides to every story.

Yeah, I agree Dogstar.

I'm sure the boys will be nothing but honest, and it's not like they will go around bashing Stapp.

As for the Creed haters, who gives a damn about them

to be fair to Slash and the boys I think they have being quite diplomatic throughout the whole thing. They have being quite reserved and that one article you read doesn't show how they have tried to be diplomatic and try to talk about the future, rather then the past. Really Axl stuffed up them around no end so he doesn't really deserve the respect anyway.

Back to Alter Bridge i've heard so many things of what happened at that infamous meet and greet that i have no idea what to believe, and if mark did sprout that does surprise me. we don't know what was happening behind the scenes though, perhaps there was a good reason. simply we don't know......

Well said.

The one thing I know for sure is that you will never hear Scott publicly utter any negative words about or to his bandmates.

Very Well Said.... Don't you wish they all were as diplomatic.

that is true.....

although scott is a much better public speaker than any of his creed bandmates. sometimes it is better to be straight out then to as clever with your words no matter what people might perceive.

It won't take long - I can just hear Scott being criticized now, just like he usually is. Unfortunately because Mark, Scott P. and Brian are together, it makes Stapp look bad. I agree with Dogstar, there are two sides to every story.

He is a better speaker. However you look at it and whatever the truth may or may not be - Scott will not say anything negative. (And this is true for anyone he speaks about. For example - Have you ever heard him say anything negative about Fred Durst? NO)

Are you referring to someone in particular, or just in general?

I've read all the "he said it to a friend of a friend who was at some place and told somebody else's cousin who overheard the guy next to him" crap.....I believe you know exactly who I'm talking about. I'm not aware that Phillips, Marshall, or Kennedy have made any statements about the situation.

And of course Stapp has been nothing but gracious when talking about the circumstances and the other members.....whether it be spin or not. :)

Mark was diplomatic, if I reckon correctly. Stapp also is. Althought they haven't called each other for over 6 months now, I don't foresee any bashing.

It's a completely different thing from GnR and Velvet Revolver. Axl was a jerk as well... The thing is when GnR split up, both Slash and Axl were sinking into drugs, Duff became stage fright and Izzy... well, I don't have a clue about him. They never kept the same drummer anyway...

But today we got Velvet and Axl made 4 different new formations from Guns since 1993 and we still didn't get Chinese Democracy that was supposed to be released in 1997!

Translating: you can't compare to Creed.

It was a simple and straight forward question. It has nothing to do with me.

Well....all I can say is that what I've heard is sworn to be the truth by the very people who heard it. So if its the truth.....some people aren't all that diplomatic....even when its a friend. I guess some people respect the institution of friendship and others don't.

I prefer to think that friendships are not that easily forgotten. I really do hope I'm right.

there are those who were at that infamous meet and greet who have said what mark said but you are right none of alter bridge's band members has said anything on the public record.

Actually, you are quite wrong on that Shadow. Scott has made many disparaging remarks publicly about his bandmates. I'm not talking about in the media( as far as I know no one from Creed has made negative comments about each other in the media) but to the public including fans, friends and music industry people as well as other artists. Just because you haven't heard about it in print somewhere or on a message board does not mean it has not happened.

Michael

ummm this is not good at all, the last thing i want is any type of public spat that would be very ugly indeed.

Now you would be talking about me. And what was it that Mark said that was un-diplomatic, as quoted by me?

I hate to see people pitting Stapp against Tremonti with "he said/he said". And I don't understand why some people are hanging onto a conversation that took place seven months ago that they were not even privy to.

Let it go. Wish them all well. Buy their cds. Don't by any. Whatever. But my god, move on. Because the boys from Creed certainly have. And I wish them ALL the very best in their newest endeavors.

Michael is there not a tedious situation where you can state this (i've got no reason to doubt what you are saying is accurate) where Scott doesn't have the chance to defend himself here via one of his contacts or say hey these guys did the same thing as well?

Somehow I am not surprised about Scott saying stuff about the other guys, not sure why but I'm not.

Scott Stapp's an ass. That's why. He has an ego the size of freaking Texas. Now that the band has given him the boot, he'll finally be more grateful that he had great backing musicians.

I'm not saying the other guys have not done it. I mean, Marks convo at the meet and greet ended up on a bulliten board so you all know what was said. I'm just saying that the knife cuts both ways.

Michael

Behind the scenes of Creed is probably like that part in Liar Liar where Jim Carrey is in the meeting and he starts bashin everybody,hehehe!

j/k :)

I guess you would know (I'm not being sarcastic). Being Mark's brother you are/were close to Scott. However, are you saying this because you have heard it first hand? I only know what comes out in the media, be it in print or him personally in an interview. I'm sorry, but I haven't heard anything negative from him.

The whole situation really is sad. Maybe not from your point because Mark is your brother. But from the fans point - it stinks. Scott and Mark wrote amazing songs together and I do feel bad that Creed is done. Even my kids who are 5 and 3 love the music. Just tonight I had to keep replaying BC version of One in the car just so they could sing it. :(

With all due respect, I'd like to add my two cents, for whatever it's worth. To me, the above is still more he said this, he said that, only it's probably people who don't like Stapp saying that he made disparaging remarks about his bandmates. There are plenty of people out there who didn't appreciate the magic Tremonti and Stapp made musically, and the friendship/brotherhood they shared, and some were probably jealous/envious enough to the point where they would have liked nothing more than to see that all come to an end. Of course they wouldn't say those things in the media, because it can all be very secretive. It's called backbiting, and that way no one can get caught spreading the rumors. Just my thoughts on the subject.

Well, tell Scott Stapp to stop being an ass then we still could have had Creed.

Why do you just assume that it's all Scott. It takes two to tango - in any situation. Don't call him an ass (I knew sooner or later your negative comments about Scott would come out.)

That's a big reason why I don't understand this break-up. Aren't friends supposed to stick by each other - no matter what?

If you don't like Stapp, why is your user name taken from the very lyrics Scott wrote for What If?

Again, with all due respect, have you met Scott and know for a fact that he's an ass, or are you going by what others say about him? I'm sorry, I just can't stand all the heresay and rumors that float around about Stapp and Creed in general. :mad1:

Not to bring up something that happened so long ago, but Mark knew what he was doing and who he was talking to. Maybe he wanted it to end up on a BB, especially the one where all the rumours started.

And your point is? That doesn't change the fact that Stapp's an ass. He is a good lyricist, but he is an asshole.

Michael already said that Stapp said crap about the band members. What else do you want?

"It takes two to tango". It's like saying it was also the jews' faults that the Holocaust ever happened; it wasn't entirely Hitler's fault. Terrible logic there.

I can call Scott Stapp an ass all I want, just like I can call Mark a great person because they're both true.

Don't you remember what Michael said? They haven't spoken to each other in months. As far as I know, Mark, Flip, and Brian are not friends with Scott anymore.

I was going to respond to this - but forget it, it's not worth it.

It's not Mark's fault for being such an honest person.

You just responded.

I think you are reading way to much into the situation. I'm not saying what is or isn't true, but just because they haven't spoken doesn't mean they are not friends. I haven't spoken with friends I had in highschool in a long time. I still consider them friends, especially if I ever get in touch with them again.

I recall that Michael said Mark and Scott's friendship is hurt. They're not friends anymore. Something along that lines...