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Chase 12-10-2005 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Ana4Stapp
Well..Ill .go in parts :D

First...No I dont think its cool that Cornell performs RATM songs

Second...okay they didnt made an legal agreement..its true...but so are u saying to me that is right to give one's word and after that forgot this? Just because it wasnt written in a contract? Its disappointing, Chase...


Yes... it's disappointing to a degree... but it's also legal for him to do. Stapp has 10 songs on "The Great Divide." He has to compensate the lack of solo material for him for perform a full set of songs live. It's either he performs 6 cover songs... or some Creed songs... or a mix of songs. Either way... he's got a limited amount of solo material. We will see what happens once he starts going on tour.

Ana4Stapp 12-10-2005 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Chase
Yes... it's disappointing to a degree... but it's also legal for him to do. Stapp has 10 songs on "The Great Divide." He has to compensate the lack of solo material for him for perform a full set of songs live. It's either he performs 6 cover songs... or some Creed songs... or a mix of songs. Either way... he's got a limited amount of solo material. We will see what happens once he starts going on tour.



So he and WU must do it in a different way...maybe writing 12 or 14 songs in his cd...or maybe performing another songs...like ..humm...Doors songs (as he used to do in Creed days) and not its not the same of performing Creed songs...

Muad'Dib 12-10-2005 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Chase
Why is Cornell performing Rage Against the Machine songs? Why is Weiland performing Stone Temple Pilots songs? They feel like it... a lot of people enjoyed those songs. They have the right to perform those songs. What is Stapp going to do? Headline a concert and play 10 songs in like 45 minutes?


With respect to Cornell and Weiland they did wait until release of VR and AS second albums before they started to cover songs from their previous bands.

Although you do have a point, if he wishes to play them on tour then so be it. Dissapointing that its not Creed playing them, but if he wants to play them he can. Interesting to see if it will be well recieved by concert goers.

IamFilthy 12-10-2005 10:09 PM

Scott has said several times that he is gonna do Creed songs, so enough complaining already please

Rocketqueen 12-10-2005 10:46 PM

it was to long i did,nt read it all i quit reading at. That When Im Alone I prefer silence

Dogstar 12-10-2005 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Muad'Dib
With respect to Cornell and Weiland they did wait until release of VR and AS second albums before they started to cover songs from their previous bands.

Not to mention that it's been YEARS since their respective break-ups. For a lot of fans, the Creed break-up remains too fresh. Plus, I was under the impression that they had a gentleman's agreed not to play the songs if they did indeed go their separate ways. If that was the case, then I don't think it's right for Stapp to perform them, legal or otherwise.

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Although you do have a point, if he wishes to play them on tour then so be it. Dissapointing that its not Creed playing them, but if he wants to play them he can. Interesting to see if it will be well recieved by concert goers.
I won't like it, that's for sure. If I'm there, I'm not sure how I would react. I know I wouldn't be happy hearing Torn or One without the rest of Creed.

TeriB19 12-10-2005 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dogstar
Not to mention that it's been YEARS since their respective break-ups. For a lot of fans, the Creed break-up remains too fresh. Plus, I was under the impression that they had a gentleman's agreed not to play the songs if they did indeed go their separate ways. If that was the case, then I don't think it's right for Stapp to perform them, legal or otherwise.


I won't like it, that's for sure. If I'm there, I'm not sure how I would react. I know I wouldn't be happy hearing Torn or One without the rest of Creed.

Word. And as far as a gentleman's agreement, I think that went out the window when Stapp appeared on CC in the condition he did. That was no gentleman, that IMO was a man out of control.

Dogstar 12-10-2005 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TeriB19
Word. And as far as a gentleman's agreement, I think that went out the window when Stapp appeared on CC in the condition he did. That was no gentleman, that IMO was a man out of control.

For real!

Muad'Dib 12-10-2005 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Dogstar
I won't like it, that's for sure. If I'm there, I'm not sure how I would react. I know I wouldn't be happy hearing Torn or One without the rest of Creed.


Yeah like I said will be interesting, I presume majority of people that would go to a Stapp concert would be previous Creed fans so the reactions are going to be interesting.

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Originally Posted by TeriB19
Word. And as far as a gentleman's agreement, I think that went out the window when Stapp appeared on CC in the condition he did. That was no gentleman, that IMO was a man out of control.


Agree, although I did find it quite funny ;)

Dogstar 12-11-2005 12:03 AM

Yes, there were a few parts that were humorous. :D

Rocketqueen 12-11-2005 12:43 AM

which parts Doggy

Dogstar 12-11-2005 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Rocketqueen
which parts Doggy

Well, the part where Beth the hostess asked him about whether his bandmates were bitter about the breakup and what-not and a slobbering Scott leaned over and got in her face and said, are your ex-boyfriends bitter? They didn't ask the most original questions of him, lol.

Muad'Dib 12-11-2005 02:04 AM

Love when he throws chips at dealer and she gives them back to him :D

Dogstar 12-11-2005 02:13 AM

And when he was trying to eat the chips, haha.

evyllsummer 12-11-2005 02:15 AM

I don't see a problem with Stapp singing Creed songs live...and I don't understand why he constantly has to imply that he wrote the music AND the lyrics which gives him the right to play them...I think everyone would accept that he wrote the lyrics, and that's plenty of reason to do them live...I remember when David Lee Roth left VH, and his mentality was that he wrote all the lyrics to those songs, so he had every right to perform them, just like Van Hagar would do DLR-era VH songs live...like Chase said, VR does STP songs and GNR songs, Audioslave does Soundgarden and RATM, Sting performs Police songs, Robert Plant performs Led Zeppelin songs, Lou Gramm performs Foreigner songs and the "new" Foreigner does "old" Foreigner, the "new Journey" does Perry-era stuff, etc...whatever agreement that Stapp and Mark had was probably more of a "gentleman's agreement", and it looks like Stapp changed his mind...no biggie...anyway, Mark doesn't do the Creed stuff because he doesn't want to, not necessarily because of some agreement that Stapp and he had...


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