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I totally agree with you Chris!!! You can't help someone if that someone doesn't want your help! It's impossible!

What? We don't even know if that WAS Mark! It problably was someone from the management! Mark is a millionair, I think he could've afford the house and wedding anyway. And let's just say it was Mark... You still don't know what had been said before that. But maybe... MAYBE that was one of Mark's mistakes. But Stapp was the one who destroied his own health. And you can't blame no one else for that!

So am I getting this right...? Most of you Stapp fans are upset with Mark right now after Stapp finally took responsibility for most of his actions? Why are you upset with Mark now? Was it the "Nightmare"-comment... Well, honestly...

Stapp was the one who were addicted to both alchol and drungs. Stapp was the one who'd hit people in the face. Stapp was the one wasn't able to preform well. Stapp was the one who cancled tour dates. Stapp was the one who rode other busses than the rest of the band, (problably so he could drink and do drugs), so the band couldn't stop him from doing it. Stapp was the one who rolled around on stage. And Stapp was the one who were famous for being unpolite to journalists...

And Mark is still the one to blame because he didn't think all of that was fun?

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thanks man...

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Beautiful...just beautiful...

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I'm not blaming Tremonti for anything....but I do think he made the statement Stapp referred to. I think Stapp has taken his amount of the blame for alot of what he's done, and its obvious that he admits his problem and his need to deal with it. But, it would still be hard to go out there every night and stand next to a man who no longer cared about you as a person....but only for what you might do to his earning potential. I'd withdraw too. I hope that house got paid for....cause the millions aren't rolling in like they used to.

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yeah, Stapp had better be saving HIS money as well...and he may need to choose some LESS expensive leather pants...

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Do you even have the first clue about the damage an addict can do to the people who care about him and surround him? Did you even think for one second how hard it might have been for Mark and the others to stand next to Stapp every night??

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Well said.

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So THAT'S why Stapp was always humping Mark's leg during a show! :rolleyes:

As far as the money statement is concerned...Mark, Flip and Brian have spent their money far more wisely than Stapp has since the beginning of Creed. Like Chris said....Mark obviously isn't in it for money otherwise he'd still be trapped in Creed and would have become a professional apologizer by now for Scott's continuing actions.

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These are lyrics from a song by A Perfect Circle called The Noose. There are two sides to every story:

So glad to see you well
Overcome and completely silent now
With heaven's help
You cast your demons out
And not to pull your halo down
Around your neck and tug you off your cloud
But I'm more than just a little curious
How you're planning to go about
Making your amends to the dead
To the dead

Recall the deeds as if
They're all someone else's
Atrocious stories
Now you stand reborn before us all
So glad to see you well

And not to pull your halo down
Around your neck and tug you to the ground
But I'm more than just a little curious
How you're planning to go about
Making your amends to the dead
To the dead

With your halo slipping down
Your halo slipping
Your halo slipping down
Your halo slipping down
Your halo slipping down

Your halo slipping down to choke you now

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What does everyone think about this story? Do u think it's more of a push my career cause his album isn't doing so well and he wants people to read it and feel sorry for him so they will buy the album, or do u think maybe he really wanted to tell his side finally? Ur opinion please.

What do you think?

I'm not bashing the guy, so please don't think that.

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I'm guessing a little of both. Publicity of any kind can't hurt. I'm not so sure he really wanted to tell all. I know I wouldn't if I were in his shoes. I wonder if this was management/label driven because of the 311 fight and the Casino Cinema appearance coming so close to the tour. That sure wouldn't do much to get people to buy tickets if he's going to pull another Chicago. I honestly hope this helps him stay sober. And it did answer a good many questions, though there is plenty I'm sure we don't and won't ever know regarding the breakup.

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What people are saying is that Tremonti, Phillips, and the management could've had the common courtesy to help out Stapp. I have yet to hear anything about those people giving Stapp some kind of support. Mark is partially to blame because he comes off more as caring about touring than the health of his fellow bandmates. Stapp made bad decisions... but Mark had is own selfishness as well. Bottom line: everyone screwed up.

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You bashing Stapp? The guy who you said is going to destroy his sons life by getting married... and then will ultimately destroy his marriage because you think he's a drug addict?

Why does everyone always think there's a catch. The guy said what he was feeling... and came out about his problems.

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Wait a minute... wait a minute... so Mark believes that people deserve another chance? And you happen to agree with him? Good. Then you surely believe that Stapp can have a shot at redemption in life.

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Listen don't put words there that I didn't say! I never said that he will destroy his sons life by getting married! Don't even go there! U just pissed me off! Don't even fucking go there! Ur the one up his ass like a butt buddy or something! RELAX!