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Lunar Shadow
06-20-2005, 07:00 AM
http://www.secweb.org/asset.asp?AssetID=369

an extensive article regaurding Anthony Flew's doubt of atheism with quotes from flew himself

by richard carrier

quote from the article
I also heard a rumor that Flew claimed in a private letter that the kalam cosmological argument proved the existence of God (see relevant entries in Cosmological Arguments). But he assures me that is not what he believes. He said that, at best, the kalam is an argument for a first cause in the Aristotelian sense, and nothing more--and he maintains that, kalam or not, it is still not logically necessary that the universe had a cause at all, much less a "personal" cause. Flew's tentative, mechanistic Deism is not based on any logical proofs, but solely on physical, scientific evidence, or the lack thereof, and is therefore subject to change with more information--and he confesses he has not been able to keep up with the relevant literature in science and theology, which means we should no longer treat him as an expert on this subject (as Moreland apparently did).

justin-time
06-21-2005, 04:29 AM
Where are the quotes from Anthony Flew?

no_fixd_address
06-21-2005, 04:55 AM
Justin-time, please use a different color. I have my text blue for a reason, thank you.

Famed Atheist Champion Antony Flew Switches Over to Belief in a Deist God

Studies in Flew's Justification of His Change of Mind and the Predictable Reaction of Atheists
http://ic.net/~erasmus/RAZ233.HTM

Your atheist shaman Carrier bellyaches like a spoiled brat.

http://ic.net/~erasmus/RAZ233.HTM <CLICK HERE!!!


http://ic.net/~erasmus/RAZ233.HTM <<<NO, CLICK HERE!!!


http://ic.net/~erasmus/RAZ233.HTM <<<THIS ONE IS DIFFERENT, CLICK HERE

http://ic.net/~erasmus/RAZ233.HTM <<<I DON'T BELIEVE THE OTHERS ARE DIFFERENT!!!!! PROVE TO ME SCIENTIFICALLY THEY ARE DIFFERENT!!!!!!

Lunar Shadow
06-26-2005, 06:11 AM
Well I read the article, it told me noting new. It was mostly a mash up of everything else I read regarding Flews conversion... You said that Armstrong tears Carrier a new one?? Huh... didn't see it HOWEVER I did see Armstrong ignore completely a good point made by Carrier. And will you quit it with the ad homenims?

I did discover more on the recent activity of Flew but I need to confirm a reference prior to posting it so if the source is unreliable I don't look like an ass. :D

Lunar Shadow
07-03-2005, 05:54 PM
well its been over a week and no_fixd_address is nowhere to be found I guess he just either gave up or saw the light or he found out that what I have pointed out is right and can't admit he was wrong


where are you no_fixd??