Creation/Evolution....

[bgivens33]

Who here believes what?? Do you think the bible leaves room for "theistic evolution"? Any young earth creationists? Any pure evolutionists? Please do not attack anyone's views, as crazy as they sound, that is their personal belief.

[Sincirr]

Hehe, this is gonna be fun!

[creedsister]

hey sincirr i think i know were your coming from} but get ya break it down just a little more come on come on!!!!!!!please!!!!

[Sincirr]

LOL!!!!!!! I'm waaaaaaaaaaay too tired right now. HAHA
But never fear, I'll be posting here! LOL

[creedsister]

Ok !!!!!!!!!!! Fine By me!!!!!!Rock on !!!!

[american_bad_a$]

WOW!! Great thread.

I am in the middle of school here at college, so i will expound more on what i am saying later.

But for now. I am a creationist. I do not think that the bible leaves any room at all for theistic evolution, the "gap theory", or any other cop out that has to do wi th evoltution.

I believe that the universe was created in 6 literal, 24 hour days by God, in the beginning. And on the 7th day, He reasted, not because he was tired or anything like that, but the 7th day, was symbolic for the future Sabbath for the jewish people.

like i said, i don't have all my proof on the top of my head, so i will expound more later.

[bgivens33]

What in the Bible makes you think that there isn't any room for theistic evolution? Is it blashemous to think evolution is just the paintbrush of God?? And speaking of creation, do you believe there is one or two creation stories in the Bible? I personally feel there is two. Which leads me to believe the creation story is more of a myth(bad word choice), something created to help people understand how the world was created. Not to take away from the fact that God made it, just to help people understand.

[creedsister]

im tired and i will be back and fix this thread here

[bgivens33]

Sweet dreams :)

[american_bad_a$]

there is no room for theistic evolution in the bible, because, the words in that are used to make some people believe that, do not mean that in the original hebrew and greek. they are translated that way in english, and people are getting theorys, from those words, not what was written in the hebrew and greek.

i believe that there was one creation in the bible, again, for the same reason above - the original greek and hebrew words do not mean that.

evolution was not the paintbrush of God. the Word says that he created in in days. and those mean 24 hour, literal days, as the poirgina hebrew and greek mean.

does that make any sense?

[Higher_Desire]

I believe that the world was created (as stated in Genesis), but that things evolve over time. I do not believe that man came from a monkey or single celled organism, but I do believe that species must adapt to their environment to survive. The question is, who put that organism or monkey there, and why?

Bare fact is this: The earth and all surrounding celestial bodies are physically existing somethings. You must have something to create another. Something cannot be created from nothing. How could the world (which is a physical something) be created from nothing?


H-D :banana:

[RMadd]

I believe in creationism and that the big bang theory is hogwash (as Colin stated, how can something come from nothing?). I also agree that human beings can adapt to their environments and, in a related idea, according to social Darwinism (which was not developed by Chuck D. himself), the strongest of a species survive.

[Xterminator27]

i belive 100% in evolution theory.

we are what we are, if our planet blew up, and we all died. It wouldnt make a slightest difference in the universe, how could such a small and pointless race like ours have at all any importance in the entire "10 billion times bigger than you can imagine" universe.

I say we will kill ourselves before we actually do anything with our "gift of knowlege"

and as for the big bang, the universe HAD to start from somewhere, and they have good proof that supports the bigband theory (because galixys trillions of years ago were much less structured and were more closer than they are now)

the universe or even out own galixy for that fact, is REALLY REALLY REALLY Big, theres a GOOD change that throughout the billions of planets in the milky way, were not the only ones who can do math

[bgivens33]

But how do you explain(not directed at xterminator) the dating methods of the earth. The earth is dated at 4.5 billion years old... and what about carbon dating??

[Higher_Desire]

we are what we are, if our planet blew up, and we all died. It wouldnt make a slightest difference in the universe, how could such a small and pointless race like ours have at all any importance in the entire "10 billion times bigger than you can imagine" universe.
We are the largest and most dominant race in OUR solar system. Therefore, we are important. It is my personal belief that we are definetly not alone in the universe, and there are more creatures who are dominant in their worlds. Jesus Christ taught that he had "other sheep that are not of this fold." What exactly did he mean by that? Who's to say he hasn't lived in other worlds that we don't know about? He also taught that "You are numbered even as the sand on the seashore is numberd. By the power of my word all things are created, for they are mine, and I love them all."

Now, I'm not trying to disprove of your evolution theory, but just trying to say that we are not alone as the only living creatures but are indeed here for a point, and are not pointless.


H-D :female: + :female: = :D

[american_bad_a$]

We are the largest and most dominant race in OUR solar system. Therefore, we are important. It is my personal belief that we are definetly not alone in the universe, and there are more creatures who are dominant in their worlds. Jesus Christ taught that he had "other sheep that are not of this fold." What exactly did he mean by that? Who's to say he hasn't lived in other worlds that we don't know about? He also taught that "You are numbered even as the sand on the seashore is numberd. By the power of my word all things are created, for they are mine, and I love them all."

Now, I'm not trying to disprove of your evolution theory, but just trying to say that we are not alone as the only living creatures but are indeed here for a point, and are not pointless.


H-D :female: + :female: = :D

the "sheep who are not of this fold" were the gentiles. he was talking to jews and that time, and the gentiles were not the primary purpose of jesus dying on the cross. the jews were the chosen people. remeber when jesus said, "it is not good to give what is the childrens to the dogs"? the dogs were the gentiles and the the children were the jews.

i do not believe in evolution. pretty much eveyr dating method has been proved not to be 100 percent accurate. the dating of the focills and then rocks, all date differently according to the same dating process (even when, according to evolutionists) they are the same age. the evolutionary belief is full of holes. i am sorry if that offends anyone, but it is true. so many die hard evolutionists admit it is a far fetched theory, and that it will never be proven.

but are we alone in the universe? i have no idea. the universe is infinite, so the chances of there being something else out there are great, but i don't think there are aliens or anything like that. maybe there are, but i doubt it.

[Luke4488]

I dont believe evolution one bit. I do believe that organisms adapt, that can be proven. But to say that some lightning bolt struck a puddle of slime and made some atoms react and form life is not logical. Look at how many millions of species of organisms are out there, how could they all evolve from one tiny little bacteria. If all the organisms in the world evolved from the same bacteria cell, wouldn't every living thing look exactly the same? And where are the fossils of the animals that were in between say the elephant and a lion, there would have to be some fossils of the animal that was in the transition somewhere, but we havent found any. Ask some of those evolutionists for some actual physical proof of evolution, because they wont be able to give you any, they will only give you their theory, they have no foundation to why they believe that way.

I think that the reason evolution appeals to people is because if God exists, there is a definite right and wrong way. But people dont want to be told that what they do is wrong, so they eliminate God and say that life was an accident, and that there is no God, and they can live there life any old way and believe that its o.k. But its wrong.

[RMadd]

I still don't buy the Big Bang theory. It's simply impossible that the whole universe was created by an explosion. There had to be SOMETHING there to trigger a reaction such as a bang. And my beliefs state that that something was and is God; while believing that he created the earth in 6 days (which can be interpreted either literally or figuratively) is a matter of faith, I find it easier to believe that he has existed always (though time did not exist before the creation of the sun/moon and days) than that an explosion occurred with nothing triggering it.

[american_bad_a$]

I dont believe evolution one bit. I do believe that organisms adapt, that can be proven. But to say that some lightning bolt struck a puddle of slime and made some atoms react and form life is not logical. Look at how many millions of species of organisms are out there, how could they all evolve from one tiny little bacteria. If all the organisms in the world evolved from the same bacteria cell, wouldn't every living thing look exactly the same? And where are the fossils of the animals that were in between say the elephant and a lion, there would have to be some fossils of the animal that was in the transition somewhere, but we havent found any. Ask some of those evolutionists for some actual physical proof of evolution, because they wont be able to give you any, they will only give you their theory, they have no foundation to why they believe that way.

I think that the reason evolution appeals to people is because if God exists, there is a definite right and wrong way. But people dont want to be told that what they do is wrong, so they eliminate God and say that life was an accident, and that there is no God, and they can live there life any old way and believe that its o.k. But its wrong.

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rather then merely giving my opinion here is some scientific information!

http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v25/i4/focus.asp
http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v24/i2/focus.asp
http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v24/i4/focus.asp

[The Lithium]

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