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Old 09-18-2003, 04:45 PM   #16
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well whatever religion he believes most like, that thing in MOP about the key to eternity shows he believes in Salvation by grace, and thats really all that matters to be saved
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Old 09-18-2003, 08:29 PM   #17
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OK, gotcha ; )
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Old 09-18-2003, 10:25 PM   #18
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your a melodie
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Old 09-18-2003, 10:33 PM   #19
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What???
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Old 09-18-2003, 10:42 PM   #20
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What???
it was just like a inside opion to the thread which goes to another thread......stand here with me........dont worry about it.....in the words of a song your a melodie....who do you think the melodie is......Ummm
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Old 09-19-2003, 10:18 PM   #21
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who's "saved" and who's "not" is their business and theirs only. defenetly not yours.
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Old 09-20-2003, 01:19 AM   #22
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It's everyones business. He's a celebrity, and why would he write about that stuff if he wanted to keep his spiriutality to himself.
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Old 09-20-2003, 01:38 AM   #23
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Just because he's a celebrity does not mean that he loses all of his privacy rights. He's guarenteed his privacy just as much as you are.
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Old 09-20-2003, 02:21 AM   #24
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Agreed... i meant however that if he writes songs about his spiriutal beliefs, it isn't an invasion of privacy to see what he means and what he believes through that song.

It'll also help us understand Stapp and his songs THAT much better.
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"The soul is so exposed,so exposed!!!"
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Old 09-20-2003, 05:48 AM   #26
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u're missing the real point.

rather than analyzing someone else's spirituality/connection with higher power/etc, why not concentrate on your's?
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Old 09-20-2003, 09:18 PM   #27
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<b>"The soul is so exposed,so exposed!!!" </b>
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Old 09-21-2003, 02:33 AM   #28
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and your missing the real point :@.

It's nice to know if your listening to a brother in Christ or just a fellow human being. It's also not like im obsessing over it, just making an observation. Now leave me alone, if you disagree with the thread just ignore it, its simple.
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Old 09-21-2003, 06:52 PM   #29
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Only Stapp and God know for sure, but I would say from his lyrics (and I have dissected them myself many times) that he is. His means of spirituality (NOT religion) may differ from what some think it "should be" if one is saved, only because he experienced what he considered hypocrisy from the "church". But one does not have to go to a building called a church to worship God and have a relationship with Him. I think, and this is purely conjecture on my part, that Stapp is very close to God and indeed hears from God, and imparts messages from God to all of us through his music. Every time I watch the Behind the Music on Creed, and it's said that when Stapp was a child in the church, his minister told Scott he had a gift and with it he would one day touch people's lives, his mother Lynda says Scott knew as a child that he had a "call" on his life, to be a "singing evangelist", and that she believes Scott is truly doing what God wants him to do, that he touches more people's lives than most evangelists, it just confirms what I felt from his lyrics the first time I heard them, long before I ever watched the BTM. God has given Scott a wonderful gift, and I am so grateful that he chooses to continually share that gift with us!
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i think its just he knows all these things b/c of how he was raised
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