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RMadd

01-29-2004 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Aimee

Just as Bush had no reason to take into consideration the opinions of the UN? Touche!

The U.N. can be ineffective. It's my opinion that the US should cease its involvement w/ this "governing body" or whatever the hell it is.
Oh, btw, did you read them stats? Touche!

Dogstar

01-29-2004 03:28 PM

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If anything, though, politics are less corrupt today than, say, during the later 1800s and until 30 or 40 years ago

You can't be serious.

Aimee

01-29-2004 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BearFan

Wow! This is crazy! I actually find myself agreeing with something you say, Dogstar! Ever seen "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington"? It's a kitschy movie made about the same time as "It's a Wonderful Life" (in fact, it involves many of the same actors, and follows the basic plot-line). If anything, though, politics are less corrupt today than, say, during the later 1800s and until 30 or 40 years ago (I'm not exactly sure on those numbers). Political machines and bosses were very corrupt. They no longer exist today as we knew them. But what many people don't realize about these machines was that, in order to gain the great amounts of power they had, they often did great deals of good for the "common citizen", so as to garner their votes. And it worked.

Dude, you need to read some Taylor Cauldwell books and then come back to me with idealistic mantras.

RMadd

01-29-2004 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Aimee

Dude, you need to read some Taylor Cauldwell books and then come back to me with idealistic mantras.

I'm not sure I follow.

Aimee

01-29-2004 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BearFan

I'm not sure I follow.

Someday you will.

RMadd

01-29-2004 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Dogstar

You can't be serious.

I am very serious. Boss Tweed? Tammany Hall? The Pendergast Machine? The list goes on and on and on and on.... There were machines in every major city in the U.S. in that time period. Presidential scandals (in a time when the media was not highly involved in politics as they are today, Warren G. Harding's little Teapot Dome Scandal was found out... Ulysses Grant was surrounded by corrupt officials a good 50 years before Harding)--aside from Clinton, haven't seen many of them recently, eh? And with campaign finance reform, steps are being taken in a positive direction.

RMadd

01-29-2004 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Aimee

Someday you will.

Is there any way in which you could enlighten me as to the nature of this author's writings? Just a brief synopsis so I can know what I'm dealing with.

Aimee

01-29-2004 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BearFan

Is there any way in which you could enlighten me as to the nature of this author's writings? Just a brief synopsis so I can know what I'm dealing with.

http://www.kirjasto.sci.fi/tcaldwel.htm
I suggest starting with "Captains and the Kings" Oh, and sorry I spelled her last name wrong. Caldwell.

RMadd

01-29-2004 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Aimee

http://www.kirjasto.sci.fi/tcaldwel.htm
I suggest starting with "Captains and the Kings" Oh, and sorry I spelled her last name wrong. Caldwell.

Intriguing. I'll hafta check her out.

Dogstar

01-29-2004 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BearFan

And with campaign finance reform, steps are being taken in a positive direction.

Again, you can't be serious! How naive are you? I need a dropping-jaw icon.

RMadd

01-29-2004 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dogstar

Again, you can't be serious! How naive are you? I need a dropping-jaw icon.

:wow:
That tickle your fancy?
Oh, I just noticed something. I can't use "ignorant", but "naïve" is okay?

The Lithium

01-29-2004 03:50 PM

I'm from Sweden and I'm only 15, so I won't vote, but I can tell you one thing!! I FUCKING HATE BUSH!!!!!! :mad1:

RMadd

01-29-2004 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by extreme_LITHIUM

I'm from Sweden and I'm only 15, so I won't vote, but I can tell you one thing!! I FUCKING HATE BUSH!!!!!! :mad1:

Sweden, eh? Is the band Blindside big over there?

Aimee

01-29-2004 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BearFan

:wow:
That tickle your fancy?
Oh, I just noticed something. I can't use "ignorant", but "naïve" is okay?

Yes, becasue ignorant means that you don't know about the issues. And naive means that you do but refuse to believe that they are true.

Xterminator27

01-29-2004 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by extreme_LITHIUM

I FUCKING HATE BUSH!!!!!! :mad1:

i cuncur

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