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JulieCitySlicker 02-06-2003 07:13 PM

I am not ashamed to say...
 
That I believe in God:angel: ;) He is the only one that gets me through the tough times in life:angel: Without him there would be no life! He helps give my life meaning and direction. A person shouldn't be persucuted for what they believe. Everyone has something that they believe in:angel: When people and the things of this world aren't enough to have true happiness God is always there with open arms waiting and He is always there to pick you up and show you His love!:angel: ;)

Wylde-Tremonti 02-06-2003 09:36 PM

u kno what!!!!....I LOVE GOD TOO!!!!! AND HE LOVES ME!!!:D :D :bounce: :bounce: :dancing:

JulieCitySlicker 02-06-2003 09:41 PM

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Originally posted by TremontiWanaB
u kno what!!!!....I LOVE GOD TOO!!!!! AND HE LOVES ME!!!:D :D :bounce: :bounce: :dancing:


You betcha He Does!:angel: :dancing: :dancing: :dancing:

Wylde-Tremonti 02-06-2003 09:42 PM

haha!:P :D

JulieCitySlicker 02-06-2003 09:44 PM

:angel: He Loves Us All!:angel: ;) :P

DangerousDan85 02-07-2003 12:06 AM

except me :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil:

JulieCitySlicker 02-09-2003 05:33 PM

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Originally posted by DangerousDan85
except me :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil:



Yes Dan! He loves even you man!;) :angel: :dancing: :D

Bridge of Clay 02-09-2003 06:20 PM

God has unconditional love. He loves us all!

I wonder if I love God enough, the way I should...

Wylde-Tremonti 02-09-2003 06:22 PM

no one does....but no one can.....cuz we sin...and have all fallen short of Him.....

HigherGirl 02-10-2003 12:06 PM

WELL SAID JULIE!!!!:clap: :angel:

alive_in_Jesus 02-19-2003 04:15 PM

Amen! God's love is soooooo awsome!

TremontiWanaB those r awsome guitar player smiley thingys.

Creed just came on the radio! Rock on!

Sheila63 02-19-2003 06:30 PM

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Originally posted by N30°14'?.7 W84°
God has unconditional love. He loves us all!

I wonder if I love God enough, the way I should...




You're so right, Marcos. I sometimes wonder if I love Him enough myself especially with all He's done for us.

Lechium 02-19-2003 09:58 PM

I love God so much. He's man's greatest creation, how can we not love him?

JenRN 02-19-2003 11:29 PM

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Originally posted by Lechium
I love God so much. He's man's greatest creation, how can we not love him?


Must you be such a smart ass all the time?:mad:

TeriB19 02-19-2003 11:32 PM

This is the same guy that want's us to lighten up on him. Not happening.

Lechium 02-20-2003 01:02 AM

Hey I said I loved God. I said I'd lighen up in creed and I did. God being a human invention is a common idea, not sure why sharing it is an act of aggession.

Siana 02-20-2003 08:45 AM

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Originally posted by JulieLovesCreed
:angel: He Loves Us All!:angel: ;) :P



true :angel:

Agent D 02-20-2003 07:32 PM

Amen to everything everybody said.....

....except Lechium. Sorry, man.:P

JulieCitySlicker 02-20-2003 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lechium
Hey I said I loved God. I said I'd lighen up in creed and I did. God being a human invention is a common idea, not sure why sharing it is an act of aggession.

God was not made by man:madder: :eye: :argue:

Lechium 02-21-2003 01:36 AM

2JulieLovesCreed: Hamelt, James Bond, Tom Sawyer... they were created by people who wrote books about them. Same goes for God and people who wrote Bible.

Just like in case of fictional charcters listed in 1st sentance they had some real world prototype, however writers changed them around a lot, and added a lot of events that have never happened. Same goes to Chritsian god and the higher power, which undeniably exists, but has very little resemblance with what Bible tells you.

JulieCitySlicker 02-21-2003 01:00 PM

You can think whatever ya want man:confused: :rolleyes: ;)

Flip 02-21-2003 01:16 PM

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Originally posted by Lechium
2JulieLovesCreed: Hamelt, James Bond, Tom Sawyer... they were created by people who wrote books about them. Same goes for God and people who wrote Bible.

Just like in case of fictional charcters listed in 1st sentance they had some real world prototype, however writers changed them around a lot, and added a lot of events that have never happened. Same goes to Chritsian god and the higher power, which undeniably exists, but has very little resemblance with what Bible tells you.



So what you saying? he created by a writter?

Lechium 02-21-2003 01:20 PM

I'm trying to say that eventhough there is some higher power out there, Bible has created a fictional character based on it. And that character is not holy or anything, cuz he's just a charcter created by people who wrote Bible.

Bridge of Clay 02-21-2003 02:00 PM

so youīre saying one writer wrote all of the Bible? itīs over 60 books, man! And how come he could live for so long to relate Kingīs stories? and how did he predict the future? astonishing!


youīre too bitter, man... Iīm sorry for you.

Lechium 02-21-2003 02:45 PM

Read carefully my previous post please. "people who wrote the Bible". Bibleocal (sp?) stories started as spoken word legends, myths, and bits of actual history. Than people wrote them down. That's why when it comes to kings and battles Bible is right on many occasions, as these parts come form history. Parts about God and stuff come from myths, legends, and what writers were thinking. Many times they take actual events and spice them up big time -- Jesus, for example. He defently existed, but miracles and him being god/song of god is very questionable.

Wylde-Tremonti 02-21-2003 05:32 PM

....Man...you need serious spiritual help....I'm sorry that's just how i feel.....

Bridge of Clay 02-21-2003 06:06 PM

that was non-sense to me... you didnīt answer my question... plus a few Im posting now

how could people who wrote the Bible predict the future?

how everything today is just like what Jesus preached?

if the flood never happened, why shell are found on the top of the highest mountains?

how could they know that the temple of Jerusalem would be destroyed?

Lechium 02-21-2003 07:01 PM

>how could people who wrote the Bible predict the future?
Many other religions made a lot of predicitions which came true. Nostradamus was just a guy, and he predicted a lot. Predictions dont mean much. Also the Bible had originally way more books than ones you see now. Many were thrown away. Good chance ones woth predicitions which didnt work were thought to be not God inspired and thrown away.

>how everything today is just like what Jesus preached?
Jesus was a smart guy who used common sence.

>if the flood never happened, why shell are found on the top of the highest mountains?
Tallest mountains were under on teh bottom of the sea millenia ago. In the beginning enitre earth was covered by water. Than land rose. Many pieces of land sank unfterwards. Ask any geologist and he'll give you a good and detailed answer.

>how could they know that the temple of Jerusalem would be destroyed?
All major tamples that ever existed were either destroyed or severaly damaged. Exept of inca's pyramids.

Bridge of Clay 02-21-2003 10:06 PM

Nostradamus made a lot of wrong predictions. Remember he said the world was supposed to end in 1999. Bible never failed.

Jesus used common sence. Of course. Heīs our Maker. Remeber that at that time, they didnīt have press or internet. He told us a lot that ordinary people of that time couldnīt even imagine.

Flood: satellites made pictures of Noahīs ark, itīs placed on the ararat mountains. Spends most of the time covered by snow. Itīs impossible to get up there due the areaīs condition: war and rebel forces. By the way, itīs placed exactly where the Bible said it is.

Temple: not the fact that it wouldnīt be left stone over stone. You can find ruins. Jerusalemīs temple has no ruins, since they removed all the fundations (sp?) to steal its gold.

JulieCitySlicker 02-21-2003 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by N30°14'?.7 W84°
Nostradamus made a lot of wrong predictions. Remember he said the world was supposed to end in 1999. Bible never failed.

Jesus used common sence. Of course. Heīs our Maker. Remeber that at that time, they didnīt have press or internet. He told us a lot that ordinary people of that time couldnīt even imagine.

Flood: satellites made pictures of Noahīs ark, itīs placed on the ararat mountains. Spends most of the time covered by snow. Itīs impossible to get up there due the areaīs condition: war and rebel forces. By the way, itīs placed exactly where the Bible said it is.

Temple: not the fact that it wouldnīt be left stone over stone. You can find ruins. Jerusalemīs temple has no ruins, since they removed all the fundations (sp?) to steal its gold.

I think he's just trying to be difficult now:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :confused: ;)

rodirocker 02-22-2003 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lechium
<b>Read carefully my previous post please. "people who wrote the Bible". Bibleocal (sp?) stories started as spoken word legends, myths, and bits of actual history. Than people wrote them down. That's why when it comes to kings and battles Bible is right on many occasions, as these parts come form history. Parts about God and stuff come from myths, legends, and what writers were thinking. Many times they take actual events and spice them up big time -- Jesus, for example. He defently existed, but miracles and him being god/song of god is very questionable. </b>



Dude, you are saying all this obviously with no knowledge of the Bible or the content in it, or how it was written, or the context in which it was written, or who Jesus was, and who the people were who recorded the Gospel and how they did it. The Bible, yes, was written by man. But it was inspired by the Holy Spirit, making it inerrant. You give me one example of where the Bible his historically wrong. There may be a couple times where it seems to contradict it's history, but there is always a good explanation for that misconception. And about God being a myth and legend. How can that be if God is who created this world.

JulieCitySlicker 02-22-2003 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lechium
>how could people who wrote the Bible predict the future?
Many other religions made a lot of predicitions which came true. Nostradamus was just a guy, and he predicted a lot. Predictions dont mean much. Also the Bible had originally way more books than ones you see now. Many were thrown away. Good chance ones woth predicitions which didnt work were thought to be not God inspired and thrown away.

>how everything today is just like what Jesus preached?
Jesus was a smart guy who used common sence.

>if the flood never happened, why shell are found on the top of the highest mountains?
Tallest mountains were under on teh bottom of the sea millenia ago. In the beginning enitre earth was covered by water. Than land rose. Many pieces of land sank unfterwards. Ask any geologist and he'll give you a good and detailed answer.

>how could they know that the temple of Jerusalem would be destroyed?
All major tamples that ever existed were either destroyed or severaly damaged. Exept of inca's pyramids.

The people who wrote the bible didn't get their information from their own opinions:rolleyes: They got them from God and the holy spirit:rolleyes: God told them what to write...DUH:confused: Your trying to make God nonexistant by our opinions and that isn't really gonna work;)

Agent D 02-22-2003 08:01 PM

There was something in the Bible about not entertaining fools, wasn't there? Sorry, I should probably know my Bible references better than I do. But I've seen these kinds of arguements before. There's no point to them. No side is ever going to convince the other. So why bother arguing about it?:confused:

JulieCitySlicker 02-22-2003 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Agent D
There was something in the Bible about not entertaining fools, wasn't there? Sorry, I should probably know my Bible references better than I do. But I've seen these kinds of arguements before. There's no point to them. No side is ever going to convince the other. So why bother arguing about it?:confused:

Good idea;) It is gettin kind a tiring tryin to convince him:rolleyes: I think I've given up on it now;) He can believe whatever he wants:confused: :rolleyes:

rodirocker 02-25-2003 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Agent D
There was something in the Bible about not entertaining fools, wasn't there? Sorry, I should probably know my Bible references better than I do. But I've seen these kinds of arguements before. There's no point to them. No side is ever going to convince the other. So why bother arguing about it?:confused:



thousands of people get convinced every day. But over a bb? not sure about that.

Lechium 02-26-2003 01:08 AM

2Julie: >The people who wrote the bible didn't get their information from their own opinions They got them from God and the holy spirit

That's what the CLAIM. Just cuz they wrote down that they were inspired by God doesnt make it so. If i write here that what I say is inspired by God you're gonna laugh at me... so laugh at them too...

JulieCitySlicker 02-26-2003 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lechium
2Julie: >The people who wrote the bible didn't get their information from their own opinions They got them from God and the holy spirit &nbsp;

That's what the CLAIM. Just cuz they wrote down that they were inspired by God doesnt make it so. If i write here that what I say is inspired by God you're gonna laugh at me... so laugh at them too...

You kno what:rolleyes: Not to be mean or nuffin but I am no longer discussing this subject with you:mad: You are hopeless and not worth the time argueing about something that you obviouisly have no clues about;) My suggestion would be that if you don't kno anything about the bible in the first place then you have no right bashing it or who wrote it and who it was inspired by:madder: :snooze: So don't even try argueing with me any further! You are obviously blind to the truth:confused: :eek: ;)

Lechium 02-26-2003 11:59 PM

I dont bash Bible. I am questioning huge claim it does, that's it.

JulieCitySlicker 02-27-2003 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lechium
I dont bash Bible. I am questioning huge claim it does, that's it.

I'm just really tired of argueing bout it:rolleyes: :angel: I wasn't tryin to be a bioch;)

Xterminator27 02-27-2003 03:06 PM

Um i have no clue what to say. What i CAN tell u though is Lechum is preachen bullshit.

Remeber when jesus says....

"You belive because you see, Blessed are those who belive when they do not see."

When that guy didnt belive he ressurected and he came and said put ur finger in the hole thing.

I belive in god. Oviously, how could i not, and i belive in him strongly for he has answered many of my questions.


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